Why is it not fair to point out people have no valid basis for their claims?

[Jane]

You are complaining that things aren´t moderated fairly now - regarding yourselves. I have a right to express my personal discontent with how you moderated. Mostly you did well, but skippy had a free pass to hurl insults.
As I said, things aren´t always fair.

Nothing to do with your change of stance.

And things have changed now, HOW, Alias. Are you trying to say that Scipio is so enthralled and impressed with the new team that he's suddenly started quoting poetic odes to you?

[Jane]

April reprimanded Scip on the board many, many times. As did Caroline.


Can't really have a dig at people if they genuinely believed he was joking though.

Thanks Mat I was beginning to think I'd dreamed it............................and it's just come to mind that not EVERYBODY thought I was justified in reprimanding him.

[Alias]

And things have changed now, HOW, Alias. Are you trying to say that Scipio is so enthralled and impressed with the new team that he's suddenly started quoting poetic odes to you?

Frankly I don´t know, I don´t read his posts anymore. Patti did take some action, but I don´t know if it has worked.

[susan]

April any word on my abuse gone  unnoticed other than from Neil and Mat of course.

[Caroline]

You are complaining that things aren´t moderated fairly now - regarding yourselves. I have a right to express my personal discontent with how you moderated. Mostly you did well, but skippy had a free pass to hurl insults.
As I said, things aren´t always fair.

Nothing to do with your change of stance.

Actually, no I'm not - I'm not bothered how things are moderated now - I'm simply asking for an explanation of what Jackie meant by the comment she made  and others are doing their best to divert from that subject because they don't want to admit that a fellow 'innocent supporter' is underhanded. And even though it was proven the last time she did it, people are concentrating on MD in order to deflect from what Jackie did - when in fact, it was she who was responsible for the WHOLE incident!

[Caroline]

That simply is not true Caroline. I also can speak from experience and can indeed sympathise with what you are saying. I also felt the same as you when all the lies and insinuations were thrown at me. But isn't true. I think that you two were very good moderators and administrator. None of us are perfect and I felt very down after I quit. I just felt that most on here were against me and questioning my integrity and honesty. But you and April are still very valuable on this forum.

Thanks Grahame - I appreciate that! 

[Alias]

Actually, no I'm not - I'm not bothered how things are moderated now - I'm simply asking for an explanation of what Jackie meant by the comment she made  and others are doing their best to divert from that subject because they don't want to admit that a fellow 'innocent supporter' is underhanded. And even though it was proven the last time she did it, people are concentrating on MD in order to deflect from what Jackie did - when in fact, it was she who was responsible for the WHOLE incident!

Maybe you should start a seperate thread about it, then perhaps it will not drown in other issues.

[Jane]

Frankly I don´t know, I don´t read his posts anymore. Patti did take some action, but I don´t know if it has worked.

So in other words, the chances are that she hasn't achieved any more than Caroline and I. May I suggest that you do with him as I have done with Jackie, and put him on ignore.

[Mr. Gee]

Wow! if you could all hear yourselves. Now can you see why I quit as administrator and left the forum. Sick and tired of all this childish complaining all the time. Please some of you try and grow up for goodness sake. None of us can claim to be perfect. Yet we expect everyone else to be. Please please stop all this for the sake of peace and harmony.

[Alias]

So in other words, the chances are that she hasn't achieved any more than Caroline and I. May I suggest that you do with him as I have done with Jackie, and put him on ignore.

I have.  Sometimes  his posts are quoted though, and I accidentally read a few sentences.

[Jane]

That simply is not true Caroline. I also can speak from experience and can indeed sympathise with what you are saying. I also felt the same as you when all the lies and insinuations were thrown at me. But isn't true. I think that you two were very good moderators and administrator. None of us are perfect and I felt very down after I quit. I just felt that most on here were against me and questioning my integrity and honesty. But you and April are still very valuable on this forum.

THANK-YOU Grahame, that's very much appreciated.

[Caroline]

Wow! if you could all hear yourselves. Now can you see why I quit as administrator and left the forum. Sick and tired of all this childish complaining all the time. Please some of you try and grow up for goodness sake. None of us can claim to be perfect. Yet we expect everyone else to be. Please please stop all this for the sake of peace and harmony.

When she answers the question - I'm not asking for water into wine - just an answer to the question.

[Mr. Gee]

When she answers the question - I'm not asking for water into wine - just an answer to the question.

If you wait for her to answer I fear that the water will turn to wine on its own Caroline. Just move on for the sake of sanity on the forum.

[Jane]

Wow! if you could all hear yourselves. Now can you see why I quit as administrator and left the forum. Sick and tired of all this childish complaining all the time. Please some of you try and grow up for goodness sake. None of us can claim to be perfect. Yet we expect everyone else to be. Please please stop all this for the sake of peace and harmony.

Grahame, this is a WONDERFUL example of the SUBjective versus the OBjective. It's dead easy to sort something out when one can sit back and look at a problem without emotion but sadly we ALL are emotionally involved at some level. Hence things can become a little heated and the brick wall doesn't get any softer :D

[susan]

April/Caroline everyone knows you were both good Mods shame you have been defrocked