Why is it not fair to point out people have no valid basis for their claims?

[Caroline]

NGB I totally agree with what you have said.  I agree we should monitor issued should they arise in the future.

Action was taken at the end of the day the thread was removed and rightly so.

Here we have a classic example that one might have indicted or should I say asked if a Mod could have sent a PM using there account.  With respect it was not a nice thing to say. Equally we now have another member who thinks that a member on this forum has wrote to Jeremy to tell him that one of the members has changed her stance.  To me two members are accusing, more or less each other for something that they might not have done.

Mason Doyle went that extra mile and made threats. His ban was a worthy action in my opinion regardless of his stance on Jeremy Bamber. 

Have you read what she posted? Also, Jackie KNEW no one had hacked her account because she admitted sending the PM's the two things aren't similar at all.

[Mr. Gee]

So many people feel aggrieved by treatment by other posters. Scipio has been awful towards me from get go, hurling insults at me and others, making lies up about me. I didn´t see you or Caroline do anything about it - on the contrary, you buddied up with the man.
Things aren´t always fair.

Exactly Alias. The truth is being an admin or mod can be very frustrating at times. You try to do the right thing, but somehow it is never enough for some. I used to get that all the time. I was unjustly accused all the time that I favoured some people over others. Ngb knows this and I am very surprised that April and Caroline do not appreciate it as well since they themselves have also been treated unjustly as well when they didn't appear to do much about scipios abuse. Now for some unknown reason they say that scipio is treated badly over against Jackie who somehow gets away with stuff? Believe me Alias it can be very wearing being a mod and I really do wish Patti good luck. How fickle folk can be.

[Caroline]

So many people feel aggrieved by treatment by other posters. Scipio has been awful towards me from get go, hurling insults at me and others, making lies up about me. I didn´t see you or Caroline do anything about it - on the contrary, you buddied up with the man.
Things aren´t always fair.

Oh WOW! That isn't true, I picked him up on his language many times - I agree with a lot of what he says but I have NEVER defended ANYONE who has make attacks. But funny you should single me and April out - were we the ONLY mods on this forum? I see also you have failed to comment on Jackie but I'm not surprised.

[Jane]

Hi April, please don't take this the wrong way, but the words, "Which none of us saw" appear to have the ring of doubt about them and seem to be challenging ngb's honesty. Perhaps that is why he answered you the way he did? The words could be interpreted "Which none of us saw but only you saw " thus implying that because none of us saw we only have your word for it. Just saying.

"He indicated his contempt for the forum" Neil's own words, Grahame. Short and to the point, to which I responded, equally short and to the point "Which none of us saw". I responded in similar vein to the one used by him and which I didn't feel attacked by. Had I, in ANY way, suspected that Neil WASN'T telling the truth, I would have added to my sentence ".......and we only have your word for it" Apart from anything else, MD wasn't the focus of my post, so I saw no reason to spend any time on him.

[Jane]

So many people feel aggrieved by treatment by other posters. Scipio has been awful towards me from get go, hurling insults at me and others, making lies up about me. I didn´t see you or Caroline do anything about it - on the contrary, you buddied up with the man.
Things aren´t always fair.

Alias, I've lost count of the amount of times I've taken Scipio to task for the way he speaks to you.

[Alias]

Oh WOW! That isn't true, I picked him up on his language many times - I agree with a lot of what he says but I have NEVER defended ANYONE who has make attacks. But funny you should single me and April out - were we the ONLY mods on this forum? I see also you have failed to comment on Jackie but I'm not surprised.

It is you two complaining now. I made an addition to my post.

[Mr. Gee]

Oh WOW! That isn't true, I picked him up on his language many times - I agree with a lot of what he says but I have NEVER defended ANYONE who has make attacks. But funny you should single me and April out - were we the ONLY mods on this forum? I see also you have failed to comment on Jackie but I'm not surprised.

To be fair Caroline there were only four mods on the forum and you two were the only active mods at the time. But there you see what ngb was talking about. That a lot of work is done by pm. You said that you didn't see that he did anything about Jackie, but Alias is saying the same thing about scipio. All she is saying is that she didn't see anything done. Why didn't she see it? Because it was done by pm's to scipio.

[Caroline]

Alias, I've lost count of the amount of times I've taken Scipio to task for the way he speaks to you.

It seems because we think Bamber might be guilty, we no longer deserve any consideration. That has become completely clear in recent weeks. Never mind the two years sat hear refereeing between grown ups who seem to have no boundaries. 

[Alias]

So many people feel aggrieved by treatment by other posters. Scipio has been awful towards me from get go, hurling insults at me and others, making lies up about me. I didn´t see you or Caroline do anything about it - on the contrary, you buddied up with the man.
Things aren´t always fair.

P.S. and you thought Harters was "joking" when he was viciously attacking Patti. I didn´t think for one second he was joking!

Here is my addition.

[Caroline]

It is you two complaining now. I made an addition to my post.

And we have a right to do so - it certainly makes a change!

[guest154]

To be fair Caroline there were only four mods on the forum and you two were the only active mods at the time. But there you see what ngb was talking about. That a lot of work is done by pm. You said that you didn't see that he did anything about Jackie, but Alias is saying the same thing abou scipio. All she is saying is that she didn't see anything done. Why didn't she see it? Because it was done by pm's to scipio.

April reprimanded Scip on the board many, many times. As did Caroline.

P.S. and you thought Harters was "joking" when he was viciously attacking Patti. I didn´t think for one second he was joking!

Can't really have a dig at people if they genuinely believed he was joking though.

[Caroline]

So many people feel aggrieved by treatment by other posters. Scipio has been awful towards me from get go, hurling insults at me and others, making lies up about me. I didn´t see you or Caroline do anything about it - on the contrary, you buddied up with the man.
Things aren´t always fair.

P.S. and you thought Harters was "joking" when he was viciously attacking Patti. I didn´t think for one second he was joking!

So what? So did Maggie and April - your point is?

[Alias]

It seems because we think Bamber might be guilty, we no longer deserve any consideration. That has become completely clear in recent weeks. Never mind the two years sat hear refereeing between grown ups who seem to have no boundaries. 

You are complaining that things aren´t moderated fairly now - regarding yourselves. I have a right to express my personal discontent with how you moderated. Mostly you did well, but skippy had a free pass to hurl insults.
As I said, things aren´t always fair.

Nothing to do with your change of stance.

[Jane]

It is you two complaining now. I made an addition to my post.

OK Alias, it's looking like you, and others can stamp your feet and demand that something be done when you get abused but when it comes to Caroline and I, TOUGH!!!

[Mr. Gee]

It seems because we think Bamber might be guilty, we no longer deserve any consideration. That has become completely clear in recent weeks. Never mind the two years sat hear refereeing between grown ups who seem to have no boundaries. 

That simply is not true Caroline. I also can speak from experience and can indeed sympathise with what you are saying. I also felt the same as you when all the lies and insinuations were thrown at me. But isn't true. I think that you two were very good moderators and administrator. None of us are perfect and I felt very down after I quit. I just felt that most on here were against me and questioning my integrity and honesty. But you and April are still very valuable on this forum.