Why is it not fair to point out people have no valid basis for their claims?

[Caroline]

Caroline I did not single you on purpose. Maybe it was because I felt I needed the right support at the time and you were first on the scene. I could not believe it when you and April thought Hartley was joking with me. I reacted, which to me is a normal thing to do, maybe I over reacted, I guess I did..

Answer me this: Did you and April really step down because of what I said?

I cannot believe that anyone would contact Jeremy to tell them that you had changed stance...Its not a nice thing to do is it, tell tales....

Caroline I have never attacked you personally, your post yes and I have always said to you that you are know it all....

April and I were not the ONLY mods who thought H was joking Patti - at least you should know that. We thought he was joking because it was out of character. I was talking to him for almost an hour via PM and he eventually realised he had gone too far.

Our stepping down had nothing to do with you at all - not sure where you got that from?

I have to be honest and say that I did feel attacked during the head injury debate but nothing I can't handle 

I think it may have backfired on Miss/Mr poison pen, I got a really nice letter - to which I will reply. So, whoever you are plllllaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Jane]

That's what happens when you only know half the story though April, and we're the ones being accused of gossiping over pm's?

That's exactly right Caroline. The problem comes when someone you trust whispers their half of the story to another person, who believes it, and they're then not interested in hearing the other side.  People seem to forget that WE weren't the only mods.

[Caroline]

Hi, Jansus.
No, not on the blue forum that I recall, that is a good point. Scip and Alias just don't seem to gel too well. His way of posting can be abrasive and I would fight back against it if it was directed at me. But I see it as a 60% 40% split. I'm happy I am not a mod that has to deal with it because I don't think it's as black and white as some may make out.

So am I Mat - because it's not.

[Patti]

As you didn't specify names it was difficult to know, but as you're now admitting it was Caroline you were speaking of it was a pretty low thin g to do publicly about anyone who has worked as long and hard for the forum as she has.I rather looks as if it was you who chose sides when you made that un called for remark.

I'm not prepared to reveal ANY private conversations I've had, but I WILL say that I -AND Caroline- supported Maggie as much as I was able, through what was a very difficult time for her. We were BADLY let down. Your relationship with Susan isn't something which should be discussed on forum.

I will just add that we both were abused and attacked, Caroline more than I. We didn't complain when  we weren't rescued/suported. It's par for the course when you become a mod.

April apart from that day in question have I ever attacked you or abused you? Have I attacked and abused you since?

[Caroline]

April apart from that day in question have I ever attacked you or abused you? Have I attacked and abused you since?

I know this wasn't aimed at me but I would have to say yes and all I know is, when Wills and Kate have their 2nd baby, I won't be joining in any conversations 

[Jane]

April apart from that day in question have I ever attacked you or abused you? Have I attacked and abused you since?

No Patti, I have to be honest. You haven't. However, I don't think I've spoken to you since -because I didn't want it to be repeated :D :D.

[Jan]

Oh dear - I hope you girls can sort out your differences  because it seems quite sad.

Life is to short and I hope you can agree just to disagree but try and be friends again?

I think despite what Scipio says we are all strong enough to have our own opinions , but have respect for others.

I just hope that we all remember it is all opinion , none of us know 100% what the truth is ( except skippy of course ) 

In my opinion only I just found it odd when a few people changed their minds at times close to each other  when I had not seen anything new on the forum ( its not that difficult to spot the wheat from the chaff) 

But fairs fair - all I know is that it definitely was not Adam that caused it ( only joking )

[Patti]

I know this wasn't aimed at me but I would have to say yes and all I know is, when Wills and Kate have their 2nd baby, I won't be joining in any conversations 

I knew you would say that...

[Jane]

Hi, Jansus.
No, not on the blue forum that I recall, that is a good point. Scip and Alias just don't seem to gel too well. His way of posting can be abrasive and I would fight back against it if it was directed at me. But I see it as a 60% 40% split. I'm happy I am not a mod that has to deal with it because I don't think it's as black and white as some may make out.

Heheheheee So am I Mat. You gets it in the ear if ya do AND ya gets it in the ear if ya don't. All part of life's rich tapestry

[Jane]

Heheheheee So am I Mat. You gets it in the ear if ya do AND ya gets it in the ear if ya don't. All part of life's rich tapestry

LADIES AND GENT, I will NOW take my leave of you and go to bed where I was headed an hour ago. I wish you ALL a very good night.

[Patti]

Oh dear - I hope you girls can sort out your differences  because it seems quite sad.

Life is to short and I hope you can agree just to disagree but try and be friends again?

I think despite what Scipio says we are all strong enough to have our own opinions , but have respect for others.

I just hope that we all remember it is all opinion , none of us know 100% what the truth is ( except skippy of course ) 

In my opinion only I just found it odd when a few people changed their minds at times close to each other  when I had not seen anything new on the forum ( its not that difficult to spot the wheat from the chaff) 

But fairs fair - all I know is that it definitely was not Adam that caused it ( only joking )
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Well said Jansus....

[Jan]

me too

goodnight all - tomorrow is a new day.

[Caroline]

LADIES AND GENT, I will NOW take my leave of you and go to bed where I was headed an hour ago. I wish you ALL a very good night.

Night April  :D XX

[Patti]

LADIES AND GENT, I will NOW take my leave of you and go to bed where I was headed an hour ago. I wish you ALL a very good night.

Night April... :D

[JackiePreece]

April and I were not the ONLY mods who thought H was joking Patti - at least you should know that. We thought he was joking because it was out of character. I was talking to him for almost an hour via PM and he eventually realised he had gone too far.

Our stepping down had nothing to do with you at all - not sure where you got that from?

I have to be honest and say that I did feel attacked during the head injury debate but nothing I can't handle 

I think it may have backfired on Miss/Mr poison pen, I got a really nice letter - to which I will reply. So, whoever you are plllllaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

If that's aimed at me. Your rude and I hope you are happy being friends with a complete nutter who is a pathological liar

Try asking Jeremy who told him or try asking Ngb


Do you think it makes any difference to Jeremy what you believe