98% of the evidence at trial, and appeal, nothing but bullshit...

[lookout]

Did anyone know that Sheilas' birth mother was due to ring Sheila at WHF on the evening of the 6th of August ?

[nugnug]

i knew was i dident know it was her birth mother.

[John]

It beggars belief that the prosecution managed to convict Bamber as the killer, without any evidence to place him at the scene, at the time of the shootings...

Nobofy should be convictrd based purely on what so and so, believes - where is the evidence that puts Bamber at the scene when any one of the five victims was shot, let alone five victims?

Scandalous...

Its called slick detective work.  Only two people were in the frame and all the forensics clears Sheila leaving only one person capable of carrying out the dastardly deed...Jeremy Bamber.

You will never change the facts no matter how much you obfuscate.

DS Jones must be having a rather well deserved chuckle to himself right now!

[lookout]

Yes-------I'll bet he's chuckling,,,, at all the mugs who believed him and believed in him !

[scipio_usmc]

That is correct Mike no physical or forensic evidence at all. Not a trace of him was there. Some point to the "contradictions" in his statement (it is very obvious of course that they fail to see any contradiction in anybody else's testimony ie those who said he was guilty) and say because of these contradictions that he must be guilty. But let it be known that even if a man confesses to a particular crime the court has a duty to still give that man a fair trial even if he opposes himself. This was not done. In my humble opinion they prosecution failed to prove Bamber guilty through actual physical and forensic evidence. It is to these things that we must look. Not to any testimonies of interested parties, such as those who either have a grievance, or who have a vested interest in seeing him go to prison.
What I see in this case is collusion between different parties, who each had a vested interest in wanting him to be found guilty.

The only collusion is among Jeremy supporters to distort to avoid the truth.

The truth is that it is impossible for SHeila to have killed eveyrone without getitng GSR and blood on her clothing.  It is also impossible for her to have killed herself without getting GSR on her gown and even mor eimpossible for her to have killed herself then while dead to have put the moderator away, played with the bible in her blood and then finally lied down in a different position than she killed herself in.

The only perosn who could have killed them all including Sheila is Jeremy who told Julie his plans to do such, claimed he was responsible after the fact and proved he knew about it by notifying police.

Nevill's call blaming SHeila was clearly made up just like his story he left the gun sitting out with the bullets.  He placed those bullet sin the kitchen after the murders but left too many thus proving it was staging. 

He used gloves and changed his clothes and washed up before calling police.  Sheila had neither a reaosn to do so nor the ability to hide clothing and gloves let alone to change her clothes after she was dead.

Sheila didn't even know how to use the gun that is why you ran away.  Posting it all again under a new name won't somehow suddenly give it any credence.

[John]

Absolutely and all the bullshit in the world about Sheila being shot a second time by police doesn't fool anyone.  Everything we know about the shootings, the photos, the distribution of the shells/bullets, the skirmish in the kitchen etc etc all points to Jeremy Bamber.

Jeremy phones Julie at 3am and has a chat while he claims that it had all kicked off at the farm.  Over twenty minutes later he decides to telephone the police pretending that his father had aked him to do so half an hour earlier.  What a load of bull.  :D

[Mr. Gee]

Its called slick detective work.  Only two people were in the frame and all the forensics clears Sheila leaving only one person capable of carrying out the dastardly deed...Jeremy Bamber.

You will never change the facts no matter how much you obfuscate.

DS Jones must be having a rather well deserved chuckle to himself right now!

No but you can misinterpret the facts, especially if a part of those facts are missing.

[Reader]

Jeremy phones Julie at 3am and has a chat while he claims that it had all kicked off at the farm.

Julie initially told Ds Jones that she received a call from Jeremy at about 3:30am, telling her that there was something wrong at home and he didn't know what to do. She said he sounded odd. She then stated she told Jeremy to go to bed and Jeremy said words to the effect of "I love you lots. Bye honey."

. . . telephone the police pretending that his father had asked him to do so half an hour earlier.

That's incorrect. According to Pc West's log and evidence, Jeremy told him that he had received a call from his father, but not when that call had occurred.

[mike tesko]

If the jury had been told that Julie Mugford had been groomed on over 32 separate occasions prior to her giving testimony at trial, they would surely have rejected anything she had to say, which was anything, and everything, depending upon the phase of the police investigation. There can be little doubt that dodgy Stan put words into Mugfords gob, in the same way DCS Mick Ainsley tried to put words into Ann Eatons Gob about the blood in the silencer not smelling like menstrual blood if asked whilst testifying...

[Mr. Gee]

If the jury had been told that Julie Mugford had been groomed on over 32 separate occasions prior to her giving testimony at trial, they would surely have rejected anything she had to say, which was anything, and everything, depending upon the phase of the police investigation. There can be little doubt that dodgy Stan put words into Mugfords gob, in the same way DCS Mick Ainsley tried to put words into Ann Eatons Gob about the blood in the silencer not smelling like menstrual blood if asked whilst testifying...

32 statements of JM. Another thing in this case that intrigues me. What more could she have to say? Of course we can only speculate can't we.

[nugnug]

If the jury had been told that Julie Mugford had been groomed on over 32 separate occasions prior to her giving testimony at trial, they would surely have rejected anything she had to say, which was anything, and everything, depending upon the phase of the police investigation. There can be little doubt that dodgy Stan put words into Mugfords gob, in the same way DCS Mick Ainsley tried to put words into Ann Eatons Gob about the blood in the silencer not smelling like menstrual blood if asked whilst testifying...

32 diffrent interviews sound a hell of a lot sounds to me like they needed her change her statments with the evedence.

[lookout]

 Reading through some of the older threads,there's one entitled " Bambers real father speaks out ",in which a poster by the ID of Ceedees knew Jeremy before and also years after the tragedies. This poster obviously visited,wrote and e-mailed him regularly,and interestingly also stated that he/she has much of his and his familys' belongings for him to collect once he's out of prison ?.

[susan]

lookout Aunt Agatha has all his belongings and was his long term girl friend until he disposed of her.  Maybe she and your poster are one of the same.

[ngb1066]

lookout Aunt Agatha has all his belongings and was his long term girl friend until he disposed of her.  Maybe she and your poster are one of the same.

That is correct.

[lookout]

Aha,I wondered about that. Thankyou both. All her posts are very sincere I must add.