What exhibits were destroyed in 1996?

[No-Bits]

Floor to ceiling height X height of person X length of rifle minus the silencer ? A person small in stature wouldn't have reached the ceiling light without a silencer fitted.

The ceiling are quite high in that part of the house, but the light fittings are pendants that dangle down a bit. I don't think the silencer would be needed to reach them.

[Caroline]

No blood was mentioned either if I remember rightly. In fact,it stated that Sheila was clean,hands and all ?

Regardless, we can't assume he feet were 'cut' without any evidence and the picture certainly doesn't support the notion.

[No-Bits]

Floor to ceiling height X height of person X length of rifle minus the silencer ? A person small in stature wouldn't have reached the ceiling light without a silencer fitted.

It may be a case of trying to make things fit, given a previous argument of yours. 

The smashed ceiling light would obviously have been Sheila as she flailed about using a rifle in such a way, as she fought her father off from gaining control of it.
Don't forget that Sheila was on the tall side too,and the rifle would have added more height.

[No-Bits]

Lots of innocent supporters have argued that a struggle didn't take place - (I even suggested it myself), however, while some of the damage may have been caused by the raid team, some of it looks staged! The plates on the floor near the phone for instance; it looks as though they are there to bolster the notion that Neville was attacked while trying to use the phone. There are no pictures of the light fitting (as far as I can see) but maybe Harters knows where it was/is situated?

Just to avoid confusion, the broken plates were not near the phone, they were near another piece of furniture (is it a dresser I don't know).

[Caroline]

Just to avoid confusion, the broken plates were not near the phone, they were near another piece of furniture (is it a dresser I don't know).

OK, still looks staged though.

[No-Bits]

OK, still looks staged though.

Yes I agree.

[No-Bits]

OK, still looks staged though.

The seat cover on the floor in front of the Aga also looks too 'neat' to have landed there accidentally. I'm not sure what to make of it. 

[Caroline]

The seat cover on the floor in front of the Aga also looks too 'neat' to have landed there accidentally. I'm not sure what to make of it. 

I agree, it looks as though they were piled up on one of the toppled chairs and that someone put them on the floor before pushing the chair over. Perhaps to stop the blood spreading while they 'arranged' the kitchen?

[lookout]

The seat cover on the floor in front of the Aga also looks too 'neat' to have landed there accidentally. I'm not sure what to make of it. 

Not forgetting that Sheila spent a bit of time in the kitchen,as she'd prepared herself a snack.
Fortunately none of us have experienced what Sheila suffered,and her mind would have been as such that she'd have ignored what had happened around her and carried on eating,completely oblivious to the sadness surrounding her. Achieving what she'd set out to do.

[Caroline]

Not forgetting that Sheila spent a bit of time in the kitchen,as she'd prepared herself a snack.
Fortunately none of us have experienced what Sheila suffered,and her mind would have been as such that she'd have ignored what had happened around her and carried on eating,completely oblivious to the sadness surrounding her. Achieving what she'd set out to do.

Did she? You do know that stomach contents is a very bad indicator for TOD?

[lookout]

Just to avoid confusion, the broken plates were not near the phone, they were near another piece of furniture (is it a dresser I don't know).

That'll be what I've previously described as the dresser where the pool of blood was discovered. Unfortunately,because of the initial mix-up whether it was two people in the kitchen or one,and whatever went on to cause that confusion,because it was finally decided that it was Nevilles' body,the police would naturally have assumed that the pool of blood was that of Nevilles. Although it couldn't have been at all,and I don't believe that it was his.

[lookout]

Did she? You do know that stomach contents is a very bad indicator for TOD?

It shouldn't be,as under normal circumstances it takes 2/3 hours to reach the small intestine through the digestion process.
Okay,if she'd have eaten at midnight,and died at midnight,then obviously the food would remain where it was,undigested,but the girl would have been a darker colour,after the pallor of her complexion that we've all seen,and because LM had only started ( visible in her legs,underneath ) which comes on about half an hour after death and up to 2 or three hours for it to become visible.

So presumably the tragedy happened after midnight,so Sheila would have had to have been killed immediately after eating,whatever time that was. So count back 3 hours at the most for LM to be visible,from the time she was found.

[susan]

Hello lookout  how do we know that Sheila prepared herself a snack.  Just wondering.

[lookout]

With what was in her stomach,Susan. Nobody else had any stomach contents inside them and presumably they'd all eaten supper together, with the table having been laid for breakfast next day.

[lookout]

It was undigested food,so it hadn't even begun the digestion process.