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« Reply #585 on: October 07, 2014, 07:04:PM »
You're fine with those of whom think Jeremy guilty,but singling me out every time by belittling my posts.. Mmmmm.

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« Reply #586 on: October 07, 2014, 07:07:PM »
FACT she could have been telling lies in the second statement in order to help the police with their noble cause. she is the only one who knows the truth

This is a perfect example of how you ignore reality constantly.

Her first stoy of why he phoned made no sense.  The acocutn where she came clean placed the call in persepctive and makes sense.  Moreover, the claims are corroborated by the evidence which proves Sheila didn't kill her self or anyone else.

The first account is the one that has no credence.  Receiving a call from his father saying his sister was in a crazy rage with a gun come quick to help imports an emergency.  Someone receiving that call would either rush over or phone police. They would not call their girlfriend to ask for advice of what to do or for consolation as opposed to trying to do something to help. 

Of course there is considerable evidence the clal from nevill couldn't have happened, his supposed reaciton not comporting with how someone receiving suhc a call would act just adds more evidence to the pile.

So ? she had plenty of time to collude with them by September?Anyway they all said different times - so no help there.

Why would the roomates have a reason to collude against Jeremy?  If they colluded they would all say the same thing moreover.  The times they gave ruled out the chance of the call being after Jeremy had phoned police.  That is extremely helpful in proving he called her before police.


He did not consider it an emergency - he had no idea what was about to happen personally I think he may have phoned Julie inbetween calls and then thought it made him look bad - if he was going to set up the proper Siege situation to stop the police going in he could have said she had fired a shot - but as he had not they culd have just gone over seen it was all quiet and knocked on the door

If shots had already been fired that would suggest they were already killed and there would be less of a neeed to wait to try to save the hostages.

In the meantime there is no question he called Julie before police.  Your admission he didn't consider it an emeregency is fatal because it proves he didn't receive the call he claimed. No rational person woudl consider it not an emergency if their father claims a crazy person had a gun and that they needed you to come help disarm such person.  It makes no sense at all.

Since Sheila can't have killed herself or anyone else that means there is no reason Nevill would make such a call.  Nor would he have had the opportunity to make such a call because the shooting started in a room where there was no phone.  It is alreayd quite clear no such phone call ever came from Nevill Jeremy's alleged reaction just shows even more it never happened and that he made it up.
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Re: A Call To Essex Police From Neville? - The poll
« Reply #587 on: October 07, 2014, 07:36:PM »





I DON'T ignore the fact that sane people don't kill. Sheila WASN'T insane,in fact she was very SANE !!
Sane or insane,ANY person can kill. Stop making things up that I'd said when I didn't !

You've got NO facts whatsoever !




deep breath lookout. Just put him on ignore for a while and have a rest.

He is just trying to wind you up. :)
I've never been in denial. It's not my style.

There is NO evidence that Jeremy killed anyone. You talk in riddles.

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« Reply #588 on: October 08, 2014, 06:27:AM »
If Reader is saying Jeremy phoned the police at 3.25am.
Don't be silly. I suggested that about 3:25am was when Nevill, not Jeremy, called the police (Pc West) , and that Pc West called HQIR at about 3:26am as a consequence.

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« Reply #589 on: October 08, 2014, 07:53:AM »
Don't be silly. I suggested that about 3:25am was when Nevill, not Jeremy, called the police (Pc West) , and that Pc West called HQIR at about 3:26am as a consequence.

Any you have not a shred of evidence at all to suggest Nevill calle dpolice himself.  The claim makes no sense, he was already dead at the time quite clearly and not only were the first responders told they were to go because of a call received from Jeremy the armed officer received the same information when briefed.  You have no leg to stand on you mad eup a load of horseshit from thin air.

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« Reply #590 on: October 08, 2014, 08:41:AM »
It was DB who FIRST coached Sheila on how to use a gun !! In the days when he used to take her to local dances.

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« Reply #591 on: October 08, 2014, 09:09:AM »
It was DB who FIRST coached Sheila on how to use a gun !! In the days when he used to take her to local dances.

Dare I ask where you came up with that...
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« Reply #592 on: October 08, 2014, 09:18:AM »
Dare I ask where you came up with that...





In an anti-Bamber book.

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« Reply #593 on: October 08, 2014, 09:28:AM »
In an anti-Bamber book.

Which one and what page and what source was cited?

Most people here including me go to the horse's mouth.  We actually read the statements authors and the like try to twist and lie about.  In contrast you like to rely on things by authors who don't have any basis for their claims such as the claim there was a pool of blood in the kitchen apart from the blood under Nevill.

No witness saw such blood, nor photo recorded such blood it was simply made up.  Maybe one day you will learn to try to verify claims in books before repeating them because No statement by DB or any other family member asserts DB taught her to shoot.

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« Reply #594 on: October 08, 2014, 10:32:AM »
You have to give Jeremy credit.

One digit was jumped on by him after decades of justifying why Neville called him rather than the police.

It got front page news in The Mirror, who uncritically reported the potential sensational development.

Even now it is being discussed on this forum.

It is ludicrous to suggest Neville called the police.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #595 on: October 08, 2014, 10:33:AM »
Which one and what page and what source was cited?

Most people here including me go to the horse's mouth.  We actually read the statements authors and the like try to twist and lie about.  In contrast you like to rely on things by authors who don't have any basis for their claims such as the claim there was a pool of blood in the kitchen apart from the blood under Nevill.

No witness saw such blood, nor photo recorded such blood it was simply made up.  Maybe one day you will learn to try to verify claims in books before repeating them because No statement by DB or any other family member asserts DB taught her to shoot.





It's actually in Scott Lomax's book where he states that while on a shooting holiday in Scotland,David Boutflour taught Sheila about guns,i.e,loading,firing,etc.
He,of course tried to deny that Sheila knew anything about guns,and even had the brass-neck to say he remembered a " woman " being with them in Scotland,but hadn't known it was Sheila ! ::) :o

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« Reply #596 on: October 08, 2014, 10:35:AM »




It's actually in Scott Lomax's book where he states that while on a shooting holiday in Scotland,David Boutflour taught Sheila about guns,i.e,loading,firing,etc.
He,of course tried to deny that Sheila knew anything about guns,and even had the brass-neck to say he remembered a " woman " being with them in Scotland,but hadn't known it was Sheila ! ::) :o

Lomax's book is very biased.

Just go by Jeremy's court testimony - 'Sheila had limited experience with guns'.
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« Reply #597 on: October 08, 2014, 10:41:AM »
Lomax's book is very biased.

Just go by Jeremy's court testimony - 'Sheila had limited experience with guns'.





A bit like your posts then ? Biased.

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« Reply #598 on: October 08, 2014, 10:45:AM »
Hello Adam Colin in his book said Sheila knew nothing about guns.  His words not mine.

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« Reply #599 on: October 08, 2014, 10:46:AM »
'Limited'.

That could mean she picked up a gun once. To she went on a shooting party and made the teas.

She was also sent to boarding school at a young age. Before getting married and spending most of her time in London. Which is where she was based when she died.

What Jeremy means by limited is she lived in a house with guns, but never picked one up.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.