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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #60 on: September 05, 2014, 06:49:PM »
I'm determined ! Motormouth has had more than his fair share of giving HIS points of view,but as soon as an innocent view comes up,he vanishes,especially when it happens to be something that I HAVEN'T " MADE UP OR LIED ABOUT ".

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #61 on: September 05, 2014, 06:50:PM »
 Conspicuous by his absence for once------------the silence is deafening.

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #62 on: September 05, 2014, 06:51:PM »
Sorry----------but I'm trying to get a point across here,and until I do,this gets bumped !!



Lookout, however frustrating this must be for you, it appears that EVERYTHING said of Sheila and her condition PRIOR to Dr Ferguson's words, become (conveniently) erased/overruled by them. That I believe Jeremy to be guilty is quite other from the fact that I believe Sheila was hideously let down.

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #63 on: September 05, 2014, 06:59:PM »
 April,it's more than frustrating. I was more or less called a liar last night,then again today,and right now this is about ME and not whether anyone's guilty or not. We are bombarded every day with posts from Scipio,but as soon as a few others,including myself post something,it's either ignored if he can't answer,or full of abuse if he can answer.

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #64 on: September 05, 2014, 06:59:PM »
I'm determined ! Motormouth has had more than his fair share of giving HIS points of view,but as soon as an innocent view comes up,he vanishes,especially when it happens to be something that I HAVEN'T " MADE UP OR LIED ABOUT ".

Lookout don't ever give into the bullies on this forum it's been horrendous at times [DELETED] all you need to know is what Colin first said when he answered the door to the police

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #65 on: September 05, 2014, 07:00:PM »
PAGE 42 OF LOMAX'S BOOK !! HERE'S THE FULL PARAGRAPH FOR THE " HARD OF SEEING "::

Quote, "It is known that Sheila had been considering ending her life for at least 4 months before her death and she had contemplated KILLING HER CHILDREN AND MOTHER FOR UP TO TWO YEARS before the fateful night. Therefore it is possible that during the discussion regarding care of the twins,if the discussion did take place,Sheila could have reasoned that she should act out her intentions.She would not have needed to have become very angry or out-wardly upset in order to consider killing because the idea was already in her mind.As her behaviour and thoughts had centred  upon religion it is entirely believable that she did not have fear of carrying out the massacre because she believed it was the right thing to do. Her passive response could have been an indication that it did not matter to her what her parents wanted for the children because she had made up her mind that the children were to be shot,that her mother was to be killed in order to cleanse her evil mind and she too was to commit suicide so that she could go to a better world,free of suffering and evil,UNQUOTE".

AS WRITTEN BY THE HAND OF S.LOMAX. PAGE 42 OF HIS BOOK,EVIL,ALMOST BEYOND BELIEF ?.


Lomax's claims are ambiguous and wrong.  I posted the part where he referenced his supposed evidence. Her 1983 release- which discussed her situation prior to being treated.  it is unclear whether he was suggesitng he was considering suicide for the entire 4 months prior to her death or is claimign that 4 months before her death she said she contemplated suicide.  There is no support for either though. 

His other claim is equally ambiguous.  Was he suggesting that it had been two years before that she contemplated killing them or contemplated it for the entire 2 years preceeding her death?

What support did he offer for his contentions?  Gain a letter that doesn't say anythign about contemplating killing anyone.  Rather saying she thought she could be capable of killing her sons to protect herself from them harming her.  She didn't say she contemplated killing them of anyone else.

Lomax's book is full of gross distortions as he makes a pathetic attempt to establish Jeremy is innocent.  Most of his claims are not supported by evidence and many of his claims are ambiguous. 

The facts are as I described them:

She intimated that prior to her 1983 treatment that she had delusions that her children could do violence to her and if they did she thought she was capable of killing them.  But these delusions stopped upon being treated and she didn't mention having them again. 

She also intimated that prior to her treatment she had thought about suicide.

In 1985 the day after she got out of her second stint in the hospital  she told someone about how she was being medicated because she had delusions and in the past had considered suicide.

These are the facts not Lomax's pitiful mischaracterizations or yours.   



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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #66 on: September 05, 2014, 07:01:PM »
What are you even talking about, Lookout. What you've posted matches with what Scipio has said and as usual NOT your post.

You're posting non-stop to get his attention because you think he is ignoring you? Maybe he isn't online RIGHT NOW or is in another topic? I'm sure he will see your post and respond to it as he usually does.


Lookout don't ever give into the bullies on this forum it's been horrendous at times [DELETED] all you need to know is what Colin first said when he answered the door to the police

It's a stain on this forum [DELETED] - but that has nothing to do with Lookout, her posts or this topic.

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2014, 07:04:PM »
I'm afraid his idea is to" lose" posts if there's even a hint of innocence mentioned,then swamp them all with his. Using DB's words," there are NO winners,everyone LOSES.". So let" him who must be obeyed" bear that in mind,too.

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2014, 07:06:PM »
I'm determined ! Motormouth has had more than his fair share of giving HIS points of view,but as soon as an innocent view comes up,he vanishes,especially when it happens to be something that I HAVEN'T " MADE UP OR LIED ABOUT ".

Who vanished?

I am 5 hours behind you and have a job.  I respond a hell of a lot given those confines.

Not even Lomax's distortions provide any support for your claim that:

"For two years,Sheila had been talking about killing her mother and the children. No doubt this will appear as part of the medical reports in the next submission"

She didn't talk about killing her kids at all.  She said that she felt that she was capable of killing them if they did violence to her.  It wa sint he wider context of various delusions she had about them.  Far form saying this repeatedly over the course of 2 years she had these delusions prior to being treated and after being treated did not have such delusions again.  Ferguson said that she didn't talk about her family in 1985 but rather Freddie. 

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2014, 07:08:PM »

Lomax's claims are ambiguous and wrong.  I posted the part where he referenced his supposed evidence. Her 1983 release- which discussed her situation prior to being treated.  it is unclear whether he was suggesitng he was considering suicide for the entire 4 months prior to her death or is claimign that 4 months before her death she said she contemplated suicide.  There is no support for either though. 

His other claim is equally ambiguous.  Was he suggesting that it had been two years before that she contemplated killing them or contemplated it for the entire 2 years preceeding her death?

What support did he offer for his contentions?  Gain a letter that doesn't say anythign about contemplating killing anyone.  Rather saying she thought she could be capable of killing her sons to protect herself from them harming her.  She didn't say she contemplated killing them of anyone else.

Lomax's book is full of gross distortions as he makes a pathetic attempt to establish Jeremy is innocent.  Most of his claims are not supported by evidence and many of his claims are ambiguous. 

The facts are as I described them:

She intimated that prior to her 1983 treatment that she had delusions that her children could do violence to her and if they did she thought she was capable of killing them.  But these delusions stopped upon being treated and she didn't mention having them again. 

She also intimated that prior to her treatment she had thought about suicide.

In 1985 the day after she got out of her second stint in the hospital  she told someone about how she was being medicated because she had delusions and in the past had considered suicide.

These are the facts not Lomax's pitiful mischaracterizations or yours.







Lomax fought tooth and nail for Michael George,remember !! Was he wrong then ?

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2014, 07:10:PM »
What are you even talking about, Lookout. What you've posted matches with what Scipio has said and as usual NOT your post.

You're posting non-stop to get his attention because you think he is ignoring you? Maybe he isn't online RIGHT NOW or is in another topic? I'm sure he will see your post and respond to it as he usually does.


It's a stain on this forum that the abuse to the Hall family ever took place, the fact it was allowed night after night to continue is disgusting - but that has nothing to do with Lookout, her posts or this topic.





Butting in again,I see ! It never fails----------BULLY !

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2014, 07:10:PM »
April I too as you know believe Jeremy Bamber to be guilty of the murder of his family but Sheila was very badly let down by many :( Poor Sheila she deserved better.

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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2014, 07:12:PM »
Lookout don't ever give into the bullies on this forum it's been horrendous at times [DELETED] all you need to know is what Colin first said when he answered the door to the police

It's my opinion that bullying goes on in this forum and I think Lookout gets bullies and I am entitled to my opinion
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Re: The Week of the Murders
« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2014, 07:14:PM »
Lookout don't ever give into the bullies on this forum it's been horrendous at times [DELETED] all you need to know is what Colin first said when he answered the door to the police





It's disgusting,Jackie. I don't know what their aim is at all,but they obviously get something out of being abusive. Must be their ghastly lives that they feel insecure in some way with. Would they start bullying a 74 year old in the street ? Makes you think,doesn't it ?
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« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2014, 07:16:PM »




It's disgusting,Jackie. I don't know what their aim is at all,but they obviously get something out of being abusive. Must be their ghastly lives that they feel insecure in some way with. Would they start bullying a 74 year old in the street ? Makes you think,doesn't it ?

Correcting someone who keeps posting the same mistruths isn't bullying.  I have no idea who you are, what you are like in person - its your posts that I comment on and your inability to be truthful!! You are still pretending that Lomax and you are saying the same thing!