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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2014, 10:08:PM »
Un cordinated. Yes, AE said Sheila had trouble putting sugar in coffee. Not sure how she managed to commit the massacre.

Over or under sedated. People are often in a deep sleep around 2am, when at home.

if you have read Annes testimony in court , that information was actually contradicted.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2014, 10:10:PM »
and yet again Sheilas sleepy state is an excuse for everything , but Jeremy being woken at 3 in the morning after a long days work? Now that is a completely different situation.





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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2014, 10:11:PM »
Un cordinated. Yes, AE said Sheila had trouble putting sugar in coffee. Not sure how she managed to commit the massacre.

Over or under sedated. People are often in a deep sleep around 2am, when at home. Perhaps Sheila was.

In fact the time of the massacre was the perfect time for a planned execution. Sheila waking up unprovoked is unrealistic.

yes but nobody else said it her husband never said it who knew her much better than ae.
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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2014, 10:19:PM »
Sheila was on one eigth of her "normal" dose of Haloperidol at the time of the murders. She was far from being sedated.
Can´t believe Dr. Ferguson gave her more than 400 mg of Haloperidol per month for a period of time. No wonder she came across as being uncoordinated and tired!!!
I think it is verging on being criminal prescribing such high doses!
I can understand the young Dr. Wilkinson for cutting down the dose drastically, but she probably did not know that it is a very dangerous procedure.
Dr. Ferguson should have been looked into more thoroughly. He got away with very vague statements. it is not clear when Sheila had her dose cut down from more than 400 mg per month and to what dose (200 mg?) - was it in July 1985, earlier? It is not clear from his statements.
Was she in reality cut down from 400 mg to 100, not from 200?


I think he was extremely lucky, Alias. He may even have wiped his brow with relief. I have ALWAYS said that had Sheila been related to me I'd have demanded an investigation, but there's an irony here. I certainly didn't know about anti psychotics, back in 1985, what I know now, so back then I wouldn't have questioned it. The other thing which gave Dr F. a lucky break was that the very people who MAY have fought Sheila's corner, that is her immediate family, all died with her. The only person who may have recognized that the dose was too high was Dr Wilkinson, a young locum, who herself must have broken medical ethics by countermanding the instructions of a consultant.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2014, 10:23:PM »
Un cordinated. Yes, AE said Sheila had trouble putting sugar in coffee. Not sure how she managed to commit the massacre.

Over or under sedated. People are often in a deep sleep around 2am, when at home. Perhaps Sheila was.

In fact the time of the massacre was the perfect time for a planned execution. Sheila waking up unprovoked is unrealistic.


Sheila wasn't at home. She was in her parents' home, supposedly a place she didn't like being in .

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2014, 10:26:PM »
and yet again Sheilas sleepy state is an excuse for everything , but Jeremy being woken at 3 in the morning after a long days work? Now that is a completely different situation.

I don't understand.

It has repeatedly been said that Jeremy would not have answered the phone before the answering machine came on. He said himself he slept like a log.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2014, 10:27:PM »
I don't understand.

It has repeatedly been said that Jeremy would not have answered the phone before the answering machine came on. He said himself he slept like a log.

it has only been said repeatedly by you.

And you understand completely what I am saying .


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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2014, 10:28:PM »
I don't understand.

It has repeatedly been said that Jeremy would not have answered the phone before the answering machine came on. He said himself he slept like a log.


Yes, you HAVE said it repeatedly. Ad nauseum, in fact.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2014, 10:29:PM »

Sheila wasn't at home. She was in her parents' home, supposedly a place she didn't like being in .

Supposedly ?

It was her family home.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2014, 10:30:PM »
Supposedly ?

It was her family home.

She hated being there, so did the twins. Colin says so - AND Sheila´s psychiatrist.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2014, 10:35:PM »
and they have no reason to lie.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2014, 10:37:PM »
and they have no reason to lie.

No, not at all; in fact, Colin was brutally honest when he wrote that the twins BEGGED him not to leave when he had driven them there. It is a heart breaking passage in the book.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2014, 10:39:PM »
She hated being there, so did the twins. Colin says so - AND Sheila´s psychiatrist.

Guess she shouldn't have gone on a free family summer holiday then. And Neville and June shouldn't have invited her.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2014, 10:41:PM »
Guess she shouldn't have gone on a free family summer holiday then. And Neville and June shouldn't have invited her.



Such a shame you weren't there to give them the benefit of your wisdom.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2014, 10:42:PM »
Guess she shouldn't have gone on a free family summer holiday then. And Neville and June shouldn't have invited her.

I think I have posted some of that chapter in the thread about Colin´s book. If you read it, you will understand why they went. None of them wanted to - they desperately didn´t want to.
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