Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?

[scipio_usmc]

Why would she be kicking and screaming ?

She was on top of the bed, asleep. Under sedation.

Jeremy would just have to put one arm under her knees and one arm under her back. Then scoop her up. She was not heavy.

It's not that powerful that she would not notice someone picking her up, she didn't get a prick that put her to sleep for 100 years like Sleeping Beauty. 

 

[Alias]

It's not that powerful that she would not notice someone picking her up, she didn't get a prick that put her to sleep for 100 years like Sleeping Beauty.

But she was a woman, which means she was child-like, a blathering idiot and virtually a zombie. 

[Adam]

It's not that powerful that she would not notice someone picking her up, she didn't get a prick that put her to sleep for 100 years like Sleeping Beauty.

A few seconds. A few feet. Sheila in a deep sleep and under sedation.

She would not kick and scream because she would not have time to wake up properly and realise what was happening.

[Adam]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=yFzuU6uBI4-y7Aau7ID4Cg&url=http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/7764238/lack-of-appeal/&cd=2&ved=0CB8QFjAB&usg=AFQjCNFk-fYpsTLnil2ncFLfLZi2rJcKHQ

This article says she was a recovering anorexic.

It also says she is a small thin woman. So easy to pick up.

[lookout]

NOBODY picked Sheila up at all. She handled everything and everybody under her own volition,as she was more than capable and also culpable !

[Jan]

A few seconds. A few feet. Sheila in a deep sleep and under sedation.

She would not kick and scream because she would not have time to wake up properly and realise what was happening.

under sedation?

I think this is one of your own little gems.

[Adam]

under sedation?

I think this is one of your own little gems.

The 2002 appeal says she was under sedation.

[scipio_usmc]

But she was a woman, which means she was child-like, a blathering idiot and virtually a zombie. 

Your words not anyone else's.

Haldol has put people in zombie like states and sometimes she may have seemed like a zombie with her vacantness but that still doesn't mean she would not notice being carried somewhere.

[Jan]

The 2002 appeal says she was under sedation.

but as alias has posted the drug could have the opposite effect and Anne eaton said it looked as if she had not gone to bed .

Also the way you posted sounded as if she had been sedated deliberately which was not the case

[Jan]

Also the 2002 appeal ~( if you are going to quote it) says she could have walked around after the first shot -which a lot of posters on here say is not possible.

So to be clear - It says the drug she was on CAN have a sedative affect. It did NOT say she was sedated.

[Jane]

Also the 2002 appeal ~( if you are going to quote it) says she could have walked around after the first shot -which a lot of posters on here say is not possible.

So to be clear - It says the drug she was on CAN have a sedative affect. It did NOT say she was sedated.

And CAN doesn't necessarily mean DID.

[Alias]

Also the 2002 appeal ~( if you are going to quote it) says she could have walked around after the first shot -which a lot of posters on here say is not possible.

So to be clear - It says the drug she was on CAN have a sedative affect. It did NOT say she was sedated.

Sheila was on one eigth of her "normal" dose of Haloperidol at the time of the murders. She was far from being sedated.
Can´t believe Dr. Ferguson gave her more than 400 mg of Haloperidol per month for a period of time. No wonder she came across as being uncoordinated and tired!!!
I think it is verging on being criminal prescribing such high doses!
I can understand the young Dr. Wilkinson for cutting down the dose drastically, but she probably did not know that it is a very dangerous procedure.
Dr. Ferguson should have been looked into more thoroughly. He got away with very vague statements. it is not clear when Sheila had her dose cut down from more than 400 mg per month and to what dose (200 mg?) - was it in July 1985, earlier? It is not clear from his statements.
Was she in reality cut down from 400 mg to 100, not from 200?

[Jan]

I think adam likes to twist the words to suit his scenarios

[Adam]

Un cordinated. Yes, AE said Sheila had trouble putting sugar in coffee. Not sure how she managed to commit the massacre.

Over or under sedated. People are often in a deep sleep around 2am, when at home. Perhaps Sheila was.

In fact the time of the massacre was the perfect time for a planned execution. Sheila waking up unprovoked is unrealistic.

[Jan]

But she was a woman, which means she was child-like, a blathering idiot and virtually a zombie. 

The guilters say how much she loved her children - so in their scenarios she would have given her life for them - so in fact in their scenario she would also be covered in injuries.