Jeremy's Witness Statement:

[Adam]

I've just explained why he said " no comment "! D'oh. Would you admit to asking someone for advice ? NO,you wouldn't,if you're a 24 year old arrogant,cocky individual. One thing laughs at another.
God you.ve got a lot to learn. You're bloody hard work.

He is being interviewed in connection to a murder. Best not to worry about embarressing yourself in front of two police officers.

[lookout]

I'm pretty sure Jeremy wasn't bothered, because he was telling the truth. I'm never bothered when I tell the truth,are you ?

[Adam]

How is saying 'no comment' telling the truth ?

[lookout]

 They are NOT obliged to answer any questions. Don't you watch crime docu's. ?

[maggie]

I never doubted Jeremy said there is something wrong at the farm??

That's exactly what Jeremy would have said

It's the embellishment of everything's going well

It doesn't fit does it

I agree JAckie it doesn't make any sense at all. Saying there was something wrong at the farm is quit possibly correct but 'everything is going well' certainly seems to be out of context and doesn't make any sense in their so called conversation. Far from convincing IMO.

[Adam]

Jeremy said 'no comment' over 30 times when interviewed by the police.

He had obviously given up being their friend. It was a case of not making any slip ups & maintaining his innocence.

The police now believed he was guilty. Jeremy was not going to change that. The only thing that mattered now was what happened in court.

[Adam]

I agree JAckie it doesn't make any sense at all. Saying there was something wrong at the farm is quit possibly correct but 'everything is going well' certainly seems to be out of context and doesn't make any sense in their so called conversation. Far from convincing IMO.

If correct do you think it was strange that Jeremy rang Julie just to say 'there is something wrong at the farm '. Wasting valuble minutes.

[lookout]

Jeremy said 'no comment' over 30 times when interviewed by the police.

He had obviously given up being their friend. It was a case of not making any slip ups & maintaining his innocence.

The police now believed he was guilty. Jeremy was not going to change that. The only thing that mattered now was what happened in court.

I've just told you,clothears------------NOBODY is obliged to answer ANYTHING,so that's why they say " no comment " Jeremys' solicitor would have advised him to keep his mouth shut.

[Adam]

I've just told you,clothears------------NOBODY is obliged to answer ANYTHING,so that's why they say " no comment " Jeremys' solicitor would have advised him to keep his mouth shut.

Can you not keep making personal digs please. Just discuss the case.

The interview transcript had only one brief intervention from the present lawyer.

[Jane]

I agree JAckie it doesn't make any sense at all. Saying there was something wrong at the farm is quit possibly correct but 'everything is going well' certainly seems to be out of context and doesn't make any sense in their so called conversation. Far from convincing IMO.

Maggie, much depends on the order in which the sentences are said. Julie has said that she'd known for a year that Jeremy had murder in mind, so if Jeremy's words were "Everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm" it would have been an immediate confirmation of everything she said he had in mind...................but strange that she chose to do nothing. However, whist I believe both Julie and Jeremy say that he said "Something is wrong at the farm," I believe that only Julie says the words "Everything is going well" were said.

[Adam]

Maggie, much depends on the order in which the sentences are said. Julie has said that she'd known for a year that Jeremy had murder in mind, so if Jeremy's words were "Everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm" it would have been an immediate confirmation of everything she said he had in mind...................but strange that she chose to do nothing. However, whist I believe both Julie and Jeremy say that he said "Something is wrong at the farm," I believe that only Julie says the words "Everything is going well" were said.

There is no way Jeremy is going to admit to saying 'everything is going well'. It is admitting guilt.

Julie could not phone back. The phone at her place did not allow it. She lived in Lewisham. Not the sort of place to be wandering around looking for a phone box at 3.00am. So what could she do ?

[maggie]

If correct do you think it was strange that Jeremy rang Julie just to say 'there is something wrong at the farm '. Wasting valuble minutes.

No I don't Adam. Jeremy was only 24 and 24 year old men are often very young in some ways We don't know his true personality therefore don't know if he was quite an indecisive personality. He may have been unsure what to do and turned to Julie, his closest confident especially as Brett Collins was away in Greece. It appears Julie was possibly quite assertive and more mature in many ways and Jeremy was used to taking her advice.

[Adam]

No I don't Adam. Jeremy was only 24 and 24 year old men are often very young in some ways We don't know his true personality therefore don't know if he was quite an indecisive personality. He may have been unsure what to do and turned to Julie, his closest confident especially as Brett Collins was away in Greece. It appears Julie was possibly quite assertive and more mature in many ways and Jeremy was used to taking her advice.

Yes but he did not say he rang Julie for advice.

Saying 'no comment' when the police asked him why he phoned Julie.  Then saying in his WS he just rang her to say 'there was something wrong at the farm'.

He also said in his WS he got Neville's call at 3:10am and immediately rang the police. However his call is logged at 3:26am. This suggests he phoned Julie before the police. Something at first he agreed he did. However eventually he said he phoned the police before phoning Julie.

So why call Julie if you have already made the decision to  call the police, and they have told him to go to WHF ?

[Jane]

There is no way Jeremy is going to admit to saying 'everything is going well'. It is admitting guilt.

Julie could not phone back. The phone at her place did not allow it. She lived in Lewisham. Not the sort of place to be wandering around looking for a phone box at 3.00am. So what could she do ?

THAT was not my point.  The point I was making was if the words were said in the order I presented them, then there is ABSOLUTELY no question that Julie was 100% certain of his guilt. There was no ambiguity. There was no room for her to make any allowances. She could have saved herself a lot of trouble had she, instead of going back to bed, called the police -a 999 call could have been made from the phone in the house. She need never have seen Jeremy again........................but then again, she may have thought about what she would miss out on if she reported it. Perhaps she chose to forget that she believed he'd murdered his family because the expensive dinners, holidays abroad, raunchy sex and the prospect of being his wife was more important to her than the death of his family at his hands.

[Caroline]

If Jeremy unloaded the magazine and breach before leaving, Sheila would have to re load before firing her first round of bullets.

Maybe Neville and June did not notice.

He didn't say he 'unloaded the magazine' he said he removed it.