Jeremy's Witness Statement:

[grahameb]

He was cocky and confident and also unhelpful. Especially when being interviewed by the police. Thread created yesterday.

However standing up in a high court and confidently lying to everyone is a harder thing to do. He could also not afford to be cocky in front of a jury.

But wasn't he supposed to have said to the prosecution something on the lines of, "That's for you to prove"? That's sounds cocky doesn't it? So what you're saying is that he was cocky out of court but not cocky in court, is that correct?

[Adam]

But wasn't he supposed to have said to the prosecution something on the lines of, "That's for you to prove"? That's sounds cocky doesn't it? So what you're saying is that he was cocky out of court but not cocky in court, is that correct?

No, he said 'that is what you have to establish'.

After several hours of questioning, the mask of a killer briefly slipped.

[JackiePreece]

Jeremy said he phoned Julie to tell her 'something was wrong at the farm' (no mention of asking Julie for advice).


Probably one of the most important statements ever made in this case

Julie claimed Jeremy said tonight's the night! On the day of the murders!!

Why would he then phone her and say something is wrong at the farm? Why not say job done everybody is dead?

He had already told her tonight's the night?

If Jeremy is innocent the statement he made to Julie (something's wrong at the farm)
would be spot on !!!

[Adam]

Jeremy said he phoned Julie to tell her 'something was wrong at the farm' (no mention of asking Julie for advice).


Probably one of the most important statements ever made in this case

Julie claimed Jeremy said tonight's the night! On the day of the murders!!

Why would he then phone her and say something is wrong at the farm? Why not say job done everybody is dead?

He had already told her tonight's the night?

If Jeremy is innocent the statement he made to Julie (something's wrong at the farm)
would be spot on !!!

Both Julie and Jeremy confirm that he said 'something is wrong at the farm'.

Julie says Jeremy also said 'everything is going well'.

The 2002 appeal found it amazing that Jeremy phoned Julie at that time in his current situation.

[JackiePreece]

I never doubted Jeremy said there is something wrong at the farm??

That's exactly what Jeremy would have said

It's the embellishment of everything's going well

It doesn't fit does it

[Adam]

I never doubted Jeremy said there is something wrong at the farm??

That's exactly what Jeremy would have said

It's the embellishment of everything's going well

It doesn't fit does it

It does fit.

When interviewed Jeremy said 'no comment' when asked why he phoned Julie at 3.00am.

Earlier in the evening Jeremy said he phoned Julie. Julie said he said  'it's now or never'.

So it is perfectly plausible he would phone Julie later to boast that 'everything is going well, there is something wrong at the farm'.

[grahameb]

No, he said 'that is what you have to establish'.

After several hours of questioning, the mask of a killer briefly slipped.

And of course after a second of cross examination Muggy's mask was floods of tears so the court had to be adjourned.

[grahameb]

Both Julie and Jeremy confirm that he said 'something is wrong at the farm'.

Julie says Jeremy also said 'everything is going well'.

The 2002 appeal found it amazing that Jeremy phoned Julie at that time in his current situation.

Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory to you, as if the words are taken out of context. JM couldn't have thought it that strange because she told him to go back to bed?
Everything is going well. Something is wrong at the farm. I don't know about anybody else, but those words don't seem to fit together very well, as if they are taken out of context or something?
Something else ought to be queried as well. Doesn't this phone call rather indicate that Bamber was not at the farm?

[lookout]

He didn't want to feel a wally giving his reason why he rang Julie,,which was to ask what he should do.
Imagine acting all macho,then suddenly coming out with that ?
Pity there was a lack of understanding regarding people.

[Adam]

He didn't want to feel a wally giving his reason why he rang Julie,,which was to ask what he should do.
Imagine acting all macho,then suddenly coming out with that ?
Pity there was a lack of understanding regarding people.

Yes but his WS does not say he rang Julie for advice. His WS says he just rang and wasted valuable minutes to tell her 'something was wrong at the farm'.

He seemed to know what's what when he met the police. Telling them exactly what he thought was going down inside WHF. So don't know why he would ring Julie.

[Adam]

He also did not tell the police he rang Julie for advice.

When they asked he said 'no comment'.

[grahameb]

Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory to you, as if the words are taken out of context. JM couldn't have thought it that strange because she told him to go back to bed?
Everything is going well. Something is wrong at the farm. I don't know about anybody else, but those words don't seem to fit together very well, as if they are taken out of context or something?
Something else ought to be queried as well. Doesn't this phone call rather indicate that Bamber was not at the farm?

[grahameb]

Yes but his WS does not say he rang Julie for advice. His WS says he just rang and wasted valuable minutes to tell her 'something was wrong at the farm'.

He seemed to know what's what when he met the police. Telling them exactly what he thought was going down inside WHF. So don't know why he would ring Julie.

No it didn't.

[Adam]

Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory to you, as if the words are taken out of context. JM couldn't have thought it that strange because she told him to go back to bed?
Everything is going well. Something is wrong at the farm. I don't know about anybody else, but those words don't seem to fit together very well, as if they are taken out of context or something?
Something else ought to be queried as well. Doesn't this phone call rather indicate that Bamber was not at the farm?

Well done Grahame. You are correct. Jeremy was not at the farm between 3.00am - 3.30am.

[lookout]

 I've just explained why he said " no comment "! D'oh. Would you admit to asking someone for advice ? NO,you wouldn't,if you're a 24 year old arrogant,cocky individual. One thing laughs at another.
God you.ve got a lot to learn. You're bloody hard work.