Did Jeremy believe he would not be charged ?

[grahameb]

You do not know him, you have never spoken to him, you have never bothered to speak to any of Jeremys childhood friends,  if you take being cocky because he KNEW he was innocent I feel very sad for you.

This is not a game this is someones life and I have put myself out to find out all about Jeremy

Once again
He had no motive
He did not hate his family
He did not hate farming
He would not have told his girlfriend his carried out the murders then dumped her
Mugford was of master of deception and a competent liar

Sometimes if you have nothing useful to say its better to say nothing at all

The only genuine people on this forum are the ones fighting to get to the truth and I am more than halfway there

I agree with you 100% on this Jackie. So many hypocrites profess they know what Jeremy is like and they ALL refuse to even write to him, let alone doing any kind of research into him. Most would rather be lazy and read a book about him, which any book at their very best amount to just the writer's opinion in the last analysis, inspite of the so called "evidence" they profess to have gathered.
Most here including myself are at best just "armchair" detectives. But you I know for a fact have gone out of your way to personally investigate these matters. Through your efforts not only have we benefitted from the presence and support of Neil (ngb) but you also introduced Simon MacKay to Jeremy.
You are a hard working hands on investigator and I will always admire you for those things aqnd I am proud to be called your friend.

[lookout]

 That's a lovely sentiment to Jackie,Graham. I hadn't realised that Jackie had introduced Simon McKay to Jeremy,well done to her for that.

[lookout]

I can't think of anything worse than people lying about you. It's damaging both mentally and physically.

[maggie]

I agree with you 100% on this Jackie. So many hypocrites profess they know what Jeremy is like and they ALL refuse to even write to him, let alone doing any kind of research into him. Most would rather be lazy and read a book about him, which any book at their very best amount to just the writer's opinion in the last analysis, inspite of the so called "evidence" they profess to have gathered.
Most here including myself are at best just "armchair" detectives. But you I know for a fact have gone out of your way to personally investigate these matters. Through your efforts not only have we benefitted from the presence and support of Neil (ngb) but you also introduced Simon MacKay to Jeremy.
You are a hard working hands on investigator and I will always admire you for those things aqnd I am proud to be called your friend.

I totally agree Grahame, Jackie  has done a great deal for Jeremy and no doubt is till searching for the truth.  I agree with Jackie that we cannot judge a person we have never met, also we should only judge on hard facts as everything else is biased opinion from others.  Don't go in much for judging others as we need to attend to ourselves firs :)t imo.

[grahameb]

I totally agree Grahame, Jackie  has done a great deal for Jeremy and no doubt is till searching for the truth.  I agree with Jackie that we cannot judge a person we have never met, also we should only judge on hard facts as everything else is biased opinion from others.  Don't go in much for judging others as we need to attend to ourselves firs :)t imo.

Yes and when a person is biased, or perhaps a better expression should be "immovably one sided"? they/we will interpret those facts in a completely opposite way to which others might do and then claim that what they themselves say is undeniable. But in actual fact it is their one sided view of things that prevents them from looking at things from a different direction.

[No-Bits]

Yes and when a person is biased, or perhaps a better expression should be "immovably one sided"? they/we will interpret those facts in a completely opposite way to which others might do and then claim that what they themselves say is undeniable. But in actual fact it is their one sided view of things that prevents them from looking at things from a different direction.

Are you really still bleating on about other people being biased?   

Quite funny.

[No-Bits]

I can't think of anything worse than people lying about you. It's damaging both mentally and physically.

Sometimes, people telling the truth about you is much, much worse!!!! 

[grahameb]

Are you really still bleating on about other people being biased?   

Quite funny.

No Hartley I changed it to "one sided". We can all be one sided. The word bias has unpleasant undertones which I don't want to convey to anyone I disagree with, because I appreciate the reason why they are one sided. There's a big difference.

[grahameb]

Sometimes, people telling the truth about you is much, much worse!!!! 

Your enemies very rarely tell the truth about you.

[No-Bits]

No Hartley I changed it to "one sided". We can all be one sided. The word bias has unpleasant undertones which I don't want to convey to anyone I disagree with, because I appreciate the reason why they are one sided. There's a big difference.

One sided, that's everybody who has formed an opinion then?

[No-Bits]

Your enemies very rarely tell the truth about you.

I'd say the opposite is often true. 

[lookout]

Sometimes, people telling the truth about you is much, much worse!!!! 

How do you make that out,Harters ? I'd rather hear the truth myself.

[grahameb]

One sided, that's everybody who has formed an opinion then?

Basically yes. In actual fact I think we are all a bit one sided otherwise we would not form opinions. Nothing wrong with being one sided. But i read up on the word "biased" and found it contains the thought arrogantly and unmovably one sided. Which was not what I wanted to convey. But although I personally may appear to be one sided I would describe myself as a waverer in regard to this case. But some people have the ability in making up their minds and remaining in that view whatever contradictions or inconsistencies there appear to be. This of course can be seen with people on either side of the argument. I wish I could make up my mind. But that is just the way I think I suppose.

[No-Bits]

How do you make that out,Harters ? I'd rather hear the truth myself.

Okay, here's an example.

Let's say you have murdered five people including two young children, you may prefer to hear people telling lies about you being innocent, rather than people telling the truth about you being a murderer. 

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  Because I KNOW in my heart and mind that Jeremy is innocent,your question bears no relevance to the way that I look at lies and truth.
So far as I'm concerned,Jeremy has told the truth all along and has never faltered. A liar has to think hard to remember,then fumbles his way in a disasterous attempt to try and get it right. Jeremy didn't have to try !