Jeremy's Debts

[grahameb]

To me, it sounds like over egging. Even when I thought he was innocent, when I read that, it made me cringe.

Because they think he was over doing things and because they think he's guilty - why would they have sympathy for someone they think murdered 5 people? I'm still not 100% sure but I lean more to it every day.

They didn't think that at the time. They thought of it long after when they made their statements. If you ask me it was they who were over egging it. To me it was normal behaviour.

[grahameb]

To me, it sounds like over egging. Even when I thought he was innocent, when I read that, it made me cringe.

Because they think he was over doing things and because they think he's guilty - why would they have sympathy for someone they think murdered 5 people? I'm still not 100% sure but I lean more to it every day.

When my mother lost her husband she couldn't even walk and had to be helped along. No way would I have said she was over egging it.
But some of my relatives did I can ensure you. They were saying all kinds of cruel things. Just like the guilters are saying about Jeremy. So from my position I can see exactly what was happening with Jeremy.

[Caroline]

I suppose a lot depends on a person's constitution? Not everyone reacts in the same way to these things.

Jeremy had been to boarding school from the age of eight, he had travelled quite extensively on his own from a young age. I don't buy the mama's boy image that it sometimes portrayed. I think he was pretty savy and switched on. But if he was such a loving son and devastated by the death of his parents - why was he so quick to condemn his mothers little dog? It was the last thing that was close to her - he didn't ask for anyone to take it in (if he couldn't), he asked that it be put down because he hated it! I find that pretty cold and unfeeling. I did ask him about it once - he chose to to refer to it in his reply.

[Caroline]

When my mother lost her husband she couldn't even walk and had to be helped along. No way would I have said she was over egging it.
But some of my relatives did I can ensure you. They were saying all kinds of cruel things. Just like the guilters are saying about Jeremy. So from my position I can see exactly what was happening with Jeremy.

How long was you mum like that? A lot long than Jeremy I bet?

[grahameb]

Jeremy had been to boarding school from the age of eight, he had travelled quite extensively on his own from a young age. I don't buy the mama's boy image that it sometimes portrayed. I think he was pretty savy and switched on. But if he was such a loving son and devastated by the death of his parents - why was he so quick to condemn his mothers little dog? It was the last thing that was close to her - he didn't ask for anyone to take it in (if he couldn't), he asked that it be put down because he hated it! I find that pretty cold and unfeeling. I did ask him about it once - he chose to to refer to it in his reply.

You opinion only Caroline, because it is evident that you love dogs. But unfortunately not everyone thinks like that. Especially if the dog didn't like Jeremy and he didn't like it. If it comes to it why didn't any of the relatives try and save it from being put down?

[grahameb]

How long was you mum like that? A lot long than Jeremy I bet?

Oh yes. It really messed her up mentally. We had to have her stay at our house and it was a couple of days after my daughter was born as well. So I had the responsibilty of looking after both my mother and my wife, son and daughter. I nearlt brok down with the pressure and to cap it all my sister in law had just had her baby as well. But her attitude was one of indignance because my mother was in no condition to look after her and her baby as had been arranged. Can you see just how different people are when these tragedies happen. We all react differently, not just because of our different constitutions, but also because of other pressures on us at the time. There are in fact many variables that we must consider.

[Alias]

You opinion only Caroline, because it is evident that you love dogs. But unfortunately not everyone thinks like that. Especially if the dog didn't like Jeremy and he didn't like it. If it comes to it why didn't any of the relatives try and save it from being put down?

Ann Eaton and her husband didn´t like the dog either - nobody did, poor Crispy went by the name "the Pest."
I am not a dog lover, I THINK I would not have kept it, not even if it had been my decead mother´s; but it is all hard for me to imagine, my mother HATES ALL DOGS and would never have one in the first place. 

[Caroline]

You opinion only Caroline, because it is evident that you love dogs. But unfortunately not everyone thinks like that. Especially if the dog didn't like Jeremy and he didn't like it. If it comes to it why didn't any of the relatives try and save it from being put down?

Of course it's my opinion but you're missing the point (and Jeremy does love dogs by the way), the point is that his mother loved the dog, it was special to her and he couldn't wait to get rid of it. I'm not keen on cats but if my mum died and she had a cat, I would make damn sure I looked after it because it was special to her - I wouldn't drop it off at the vets as soon as she was out of the way.

[grahameb]

Of course it's my opinion but you're missing the point (and Jeremy does love dogs by the way), the point is that his mother loved the dog, it was special to her and he couldn't wait to get rid of it. I'm not keen on cats but if my mum died and she had a cat, I would make damn sure I looked after it because it was special to her - I wouldn't drop it off at the vets as soon as she was out of the way.

Well he certainly didn't love that one did he.

[Caroline]

Oh yes. It really messed her up mentally. We had to have her stay at our house and it was a couple of days after my daughter was born as well. So I had the responsibilty of looking after both my mother and my wife, son and daughter. I nearlt brok down with the pressure and to cap it all my sister in law had just had her baby as well. But her attitude was one of indignance because my mother was in no condition to look after her and her baby as had been arranged. Can you see just how different people are when these tragedies happen. We all react differently, not just because of our different constitutions, but also because of other pressures on us at the time. There are in fact many variables that we must consider.

And that's the difference - Jeremy's shock didn't appear to last long.

[grahameb]

And that's the difference - Jeremy's shock didn't appear to last long.

I think you should underline the word "appear"?

[Adam]

Jeremy had a dog as a boy. In his police interviews he said he was very fond of it 

That was before he realised dogs could mess up stereo equipment.

[nugnug]

was this a perfectly healthy dog.

[Caroline]

I think you should underline the word "appear"?

I'm happy with it the way it is 

[Alias]

And that's the difference - Jeremy's shock didn't appear to last long.

Wastn´t he put on medication?
And again, people react differently. Furthermore. young people are mostly what you might call "reluctant grievers" and are all in all more resilient than older persons.