the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.

[nugnug]

The armed officers arrived in 2 waves.  The intiial wave around 5AM and a subsequent wave arrived around 7AM.  Some of these armed officers were tasked with defending the perimeter in case someone came running out. The others were tasked with entering the premises and these were called the raid team.  Those who entered the structure were the raid team while the other armed officers were outside to protect the perimeter.

defending the perimeter from what.

[scipio_usmc]

defending the perimeter from what.

Sheila coming out of a different door with a gun and trying to shoot unarmed police who try to stop her from fleeing the scene or fleeing the scene without any cops even noticing.

[lookout]

Sheila coming out of a different door with a gun and trying to shoot unarmed police who try to stop her from fleeing the scene or fleeing the scene without any cops even noticing.

Oh,,Sheila was it ?

[scipio_usmc]

Oh,,Sheila was it ?

Well since Jeremy claimed his father stated Sheila had a gun and was threatening the family with it, was crazy and had an arsenal at her disposal that she knew how to use - yes they feared Sheila.

[susan]

Ha Ha Adam you mean nugnugs don't you trying to confuse me

[nugnug]

Well since Jeremy claimed his father stated Sheila had a gun and was threatening the family with it, was crazy and had an arsenal at her disposal that she knew how to use - yes they feared Sheila.

what even though they hadent seen or heard her all night.

[lookout]

Well since Jeremy claimed his father stated Sheila had a gun and was threatening the family with it, was crazy and had an arsenal at her disposal that she knew how to use - yes they feared Sheila.

So you believe all that about the father phoning too ?

[nugnug]

how many policeman were each in raid team.

[grahameb]

come on Adam - you have seen the logs - stop playing the innocent

They obviously thought someone was moving about in the house . I am not saying that is true , I am saying that's what they thought.

If it had been your children in there I am sure your argument would be completely different.

They did report noises from within the house I believe?

[nugnug]

but if everyone was dead there cant of been noises.

[scipio_usmc]

how many policeman were each in raid team.

PS Adams arrived at 5AM with the Firearms Team and took charge
DI Montgomery arrived at 7AM assumed command, Adams 2nd in charge they coordinated efforts.

After the second batch arrived the outer buildings were cleared before doing anything else.  Then the decision was made to enter and a team of 3 were selected to look for the best entry location with the kitchen door being sleected.

Prior to Montgomery and his firearms team there were only 6 on scene:
Sgt Adams
Alexander-Smart
Collins
Delgado
Dermott
Matthews

With Mongtomery and his personnel that jumped to 18 men (1 was actually female)

Raid team
Alexander-Smart
Collins
Delgado
Hall
Manners
Woodcock

Containment:
Adams
Montgomery
Brown
Moule
MacIntosh
Matthews
Jeapes
Dermott
Mercer
Rozga
Mildinhall
Webb

The final 3 members of the containment team were called inside WHF to help cover the officers who were clearing the rooms.

Raid members who cleared the upstairs rooms and found the 5 bodies:
Collins
Delgado
Woodcock

Provided cover to these 3 and thus subsequently saw the bodies:

Hall
Manners
Webb (did not see bedroom well, only saw June from a distance)

So 5 men from the raid team had ented the bedroom and seen both bodies in it, eveyrone who entered only saw 1 in the kitchen.

Shortly after the structure was cleared 4 supervisors entered to inspect the premises and saw all 5 bodies so rather quickly saw the 2 bodied in the master bedroom.

Gibbons
Harris
Montgomery
Adams

[Adam]

They did report noises from within the house I believe?

Now now Grahame. You know that Crispy barking does not count.

[nugnug]

they had enough men allready to do all that needed to be done.

[lookout]

PS Adams arrived at 5AM with the Firearms Team and took charge
DI Montgomery arrived at 7AM assumed command, Adams 2nd in charge they coordinated efforts.

After the second batch arrived the outer buildings were cleared before doing anything else.  Then the decision was made to enter and a team of 3 were selected to look for the best entry location with the kitchen door being sleected.

Prior to Montgomery and his firearms team there were only 6 on scene:
Sgt Adams
Alexander-Smart
Collins
Delgado
Dermott
Matthews

With Mongtomery and his personnel that jumped to 18 men (1 was actually female)

Raid team
Alexander-Smart
Collins
Delgado
Hall
Manners
Woodcock

Containment:
Adams
Montgomery
Brown
Moule
MacIntosh
Matthews
Jeapes
Dermott
Mercer
Rozga
Mildinhall
Webb

The final 3 members of the containment team were called inside WHF to help cover the officers who were clearing the rooms.

Raid members who cleared the upstairs rooms and found the 5 bodies:
Collins
Delgado
Woodcock

Provided cover to these 3 and thus subsequently saw the bodies:

Hall
Manners
Webb (did not see bedroom well, only saw June from a distance)

So 5 men from the raid team had ented the bedroom and seen both bodies in it, eveyrone who entered only saw 1 in the kitchen.

Shortly after the structure was cleared 4 supervisors entered to inspect the premises and saw all 5 bodies so rather quickly saw the 2 bodied in the master bedroom.

Gibbons
Harris
Montgomery
Adams

One heck of an area of contamination.

[nugnug]

if they thought they needed more men there why did they take so long to ask for them.