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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2014, 06:55:PM »
Groundhog day

I wouldn´t know!  ;D

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2014, 06:56:PM »
Groundhog day

I am looking forward to Numugs source about the standard procedure for a raid team in 1985.
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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2014, 07:05:PM »
I'd like to know where Jeremy got the energy from after having worked all of 17 hours harvesting,then on to slaughter 5 people when it was a known fact that both parents described Jeremy as being inherently lazy. Always too tired to do anything,and there'd be rows galore about his laziness.
One doesn't change overnight. I bet his father had to ring him every morning to get up.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2014, 07:09:PM »
This claim has been raised 5 times the past 2 weeks in this threads.

The raid team waited until they had enough personnel to raid the building and STILL cover the outside so that a gunman could not rush out a different door and shoot those outside and fle the scene or simply flee the scene.

You set up a perimeter to guard against excape.  7AM a second batch of armed officers arrived and then after their arrival some were staitioned to guard the perimeter while others were to raid the house and they forumated and executed their plan.
Have I been reading this wrong, I thought there was only one raid team, the one that Bewes called when he pissed himself after running away from the trick of light?

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2014, 07:09:PM »
At 24, I could summon the energy to do a bit of after hours work if there was a £436,000 reward.

If tired afterwards I could always recover in Amsterdam. Or St Tropez.
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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2014, 07:11:PM »
Have I been reading this wrong, I thought there was only one raid team, the one that Bewes called when he pissed himself after running away from the trick of light?





It just makes matters worse if there were two lots when you think of the time that was wasted.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2014, 07:11:PM »
Have I been reading this wrong, I thought there was only one raid team, the one that Bewes called when he pissed himself after running away from the trick of light?

yes there was only one.

the one that seemed to think it was still dark 2 hours after daylight had arrived.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2014, 07:23:PM »
Have I been reading this wrong, I thought there was only one raid team, the one that Bewes called when he pissed himself after running away from the trick of light?

A second team was called as backup.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2014, 07:25:PM »
why would they need back up they were only dealing with one person.

acording to them they hadent seen or heard anything why would back up be needed.
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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2014, 07:37:PM »
I don't see how what time they went in helps show guilt or innocence.

come on Adam - you have seen the logs - stop playing the innocent

They obviously thought someone was moving about in the house . I am not saying that is true , I am saying that's what they thought.

If it had been your children in there I am sure your argument would be completely different.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2014, 07:45:PM »
surely the main priority would of been or should getting the hostages out of there someone escaping out the back out the back entrance would not be your main priority.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2014, 07:45:PM »
Have I been reading this wrong, I thought there was only one raid team, the one that Bewes called when he pissed himself after running away from the trick of light?

The armed officers arrived in 2 waves.  The intiial wave around 5AM and a subsequent wave arrived around 7AM.  Some of these armed officers were tasked with defending the perimeter in case someone came running out. The others were tasked with entering the premises and these were called the raid team.  Those who entered the structure were the raid team while the other armed officers were outside to protect the perimeter.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2014, 08:02:PM »
come on Adam - you have seen the logs - stop playing the innocent

They obviously thought someone was moving about in the house . I am not saying that is true , I am saying that's what they thought.

If it had been your children in there I am sure your argument would be completely different.

I have not seen the logs.

When they entered is of no interest to me. They were not biased and would have entered when they thought appropriate.

However I am looking forward to Numugs source showing the protocol for raid teams in 85. Source has been requested.
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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2014, 08:06:PM »
Adam who is Numugs is it a new member?

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2014, 08:08:PM »
"Source has been requested."  ::) ::) ::)