That last paragraph is not true. The whole aregument has been that if they had gone in earlier
1) they may have ( in theory ) been able to save some of the victims ( it is only in hindsight that we know this was not possible)
Without the benefit of hindsight then what we have is the assumption she is in there holding the family hostage and that if sppoked she will likely start shooting them and that she could shoot them and police with impunity if they entered because the police were not armed.
2) the time of death would probably have been more accurate.If it was before 3.26 in other words within the hour then they would have KNOWN that the call from Neville to Jeremy was false
The time of death would be no easier to tell unless the wounds were still wet in which case it would say recent. How would that disprove the phone call? Unless rigor started the obvious state of the bodies would not be able to suggest right away that the call was BS. For your claims to be true the victims would have needed to have been shot at least 2 hours before police found the bodies. While we don't know exactly when Jeremy killed them it is unlikely he did so around 1AM then waited so long to call Julie and police. That kind of gap might have been noticable and have been enough to cause suspicion. A gap of less doesn't and leaves the door open to the defense trying to claim it was police who moved her body while she was still bleeding.
3) We would not have the ambiguous logs that happened and raised suspicions
The logs are only ambiguous and suspicious to Jeremy advocates looking for something to twist and the claims seized upon had nothing at all to do with the timing of the raid.
The claims made are:
1) that the log from Bonnet might have indicated he received a call from Nevill.
2) that police might have found 2 bodies in the kitchen because they saw a female through the window and then noted finding a male inside as well.
Neither claim has anything to do with the timing of the raid and both are wholly meritless.
Jeremy definitely spoke with West. West stated he forwarded the information to Bonnet and Bonnet confirmed he received the information from West. The log doesn't support the notion that Nevill called it clearly attributes the call to West an dnotes it was passed ot West from Nevill's son. West's statement further makes this clear. There is no valid basis to suggest any of this suggests a call directly from Nevill. Indeed Bonnet was not at a station that was answering regular calls from the public. He was at a different station from West (HQ) and he was to keep track of incidents reported to him by police personnel.
The raid statements are veyr clearl. Collins looked through the window and saw what he thought was a female but upon entereing found out it was Nevill. He stated this clear as day. Teh police state as clear as day no other bodies found int he kitchen but rather 2 in the master bedroom and 2 boys in another bedroom. Furthermore the autospy report makes clear Sheila died with her body in the position she was found and in the location where found based on the blood pool.
There was never ambiguity or a real question over this the defnese TRIED to see if they could parlay this into something but they were not able to.
The only people who try asserting either of these things are extremely dishonest or extraordinaraily ignorant and crazy. It is a waste of time even trying to pretend either claim might be meritorious.
4) there probably would not have been two crime files - so all the statements we would have seen would be the originals from August
I don't know what you are talking about as far as 2 crime files. The raosn for additional statements was to cover additional gorund that was developed by processing the scene and the case progressing. taht always happens. Statements are obtained for set purposes when necessary just like affidavots are only secured for a set purpose. The dates of the statements doesn't mean squat.
5) Because the phone call would have been proved as false then Jeremy would have been a suspect immediately ( that was a big risk for him) and he would have had no time to destroy any forensic evidence.
Don't you think we all wished that the case was clear cut ? Why would we try and defend a man if we really thought he was guilty ?
I don't understand your motives when you believe he is exactly where he should be - so I dont expect you to understand ours .
No Bamber supporters don't wish the evidence wa smore clear cut against him they wish it was less so which is why supporters raise complete nonsense like the claim Nevill made a call himself or that SHeila's body was moved.
Nothing you raised makes this an ambiguous case. The evidence is strong Jeremy supporters simply choose to dismiss any evidence of his guilt and want to believe he is innocent no matter what. The case is so strong that wild conspiracy claims have to be leveled to try to pretend he is innocent.
What evidence is there to establish and evidentiary basis for these wild allegations? None the claims are not being made based on any evidence but simply because the only way Jeremy could be innocent would be if the evidence that proves his guilt were all faked.
The same way supporters took an innocent log and tried to misrepresent it as proof of Nevill making a call despite it not supporting such a claim at all, jeremy supporters claim all the evidence was faked despite having no raitonal reason to actually believe it and simply arguing it out of necessaity because it is the only way for Jeremy to be innocent.
