A shooting incident at White House farm

[tyler]

Sunrise on the morning in question was 04.50 and Sunset was 21.20

[lookout]

In other words,it was light.

[nugnug]

so daylight would about an hour or so after they got there.

[lookout]

That's right,nugs. They contradict themselves by saying that the moon created " a trick of the light ",yet when they were sitting twiddling their thumbs,they said it was dark ? The excuses just rolled off their tongues.

[lookout]

Another shooting I'm reading about is that of Jennifer Berman of Florida,who shot dead her two beautiful teenage children,aged 15 and 16,as they lay asleep. She then opened fire on herself. A divorced woman who couldn't manage financially after the divorce and who herself worked as a nurse doing 12 hour shifts to make ends meet. Another sad story of not being able to cope,made worse because the USA doesn't come cheap where help and support is concerned.

A neighbour had remarked on Mrs Berman having been upset,disappointed and confused prior to the murders.

The three deceased were found all together,bless them,it's heartbreaking.

[Jan]

Sunrise on the morning in question was 04.50 and Sunset was 21.20

Thank you for that FACT.

Just because posters write things as if they are factual it does not mean they are .

I took a photo of a sunrise recently ( when the light woke me up) and trust me I could see very clearly across the fields by my house.

[Caroline]

All that proves is that no one was talking near that phone.  They were not even sure which room the phone off the hook was in at the time.  When you take a phone off the hook you do so for a reason so something was clearly wrong and they had no reason to disbelieve Jeremy and just go bang on the door and hope no one answers with a gun or starts shooting anyone in the house. 

Police broke in an saw Nevill was dead.  Did they decide that Sheila killed herself and that there was no longer a threat?  Absolutely not.  They were very slow in their room to room searches out of fear she was in hiding somewhere waiting to shoot them.  They gew more bold after finding her dead with the gun on her and then broke into other rooms with less fear though they still cleared the whole house to make sure there was no one else inside with a gun.

If someone was listening in they would have been able to hear if there were gunshots or people fighting or any kind of commotion, all they heard was the dog barking. After an hour or so, it seems perfectly reasonable to assume they would have tried to gain access.

[Jane]

Thank you for that FACT.

Just because posters write things as if they are factual it does not mean they are .

I took a photo of a sunrise recently ( when the light woke me up) and trust me I could see very clearly across the fields by my house.

Just this week, because I had a VERY early start!! I was up at 5 am, pulled the curtains back and put on my make up. The day was overcast, but it was BROAD daylight.

[lookout]

Thank you for that FACT.

Just because posters write things as if they are factual it does not mean they are .

I took a photo of a sunrise recently ( when the light woke me up) and trust me I could see very clearly across the fields by my house.

5a.m here is daylight !

[Jan]

5a.m here is daylight !

yes and it wakes the birds up who in turn sit on our roof and wake us up!

[lookout]

yes and it wakes the birds up who in turn sit on our roof and wake us up!

Indeed,plus the seagulls sitting " laughing ",here in this seaside place.

[Jane]

Indeed,plus the seagulls sitting " laughing ",here in this seaside place.

And I live close enough to WHF to have the same daylight

[lookout]

Digressing again,but still in the same tone where mental illness is concerned.
Yet another mother committed suicide brought on by PND. The married daughter of an aristocrat took her life. This tragedy occurred in 2008 when her children were two and 9 weeks respectively,when she appeared to be short-tempered and tearful,which was out of character for Kate Chetwynd. Her diagnosis of PND was made and when she was receiving the appropriate medication,everyone thought that Kate would now be fine. Much the same as Junes' attitude that it'll go away !!

However,it came out that Kate had previously suffered from depression before being married,but hadn't told her husband. Before Kate took her life,her husband had noticed a change in her as though " possessed " by something. On the day of her suicide,she was calm,took the dog for a walk,and didn't return.

The difference in Kates' death and Sheilas' was that Sheila had,and faced some awful issues prior to her death. Issues in which the family were involved with and to Sheila,were the cause of her illness on top of which she also would have suffered from PND too so that was a means to an end.

Poor women. As the news states," Thousands of mothers and babies are at risk of life-threatening psychosis because of a lack of NHS provision.Warning that PND can become a far more severe mental illness. Post partum psychosis can lead sufferers to take their lives and also those of their children."

[Caroline]

And I live close enough to WHF to have the same daylight

I live MUCH further north in Durham and it was 'starting' to get light around 3:30 this morning.

[Jane]

I live MUCH further north in Durham and it was 'starting' to get light around 3:30 this morning.

Wonder what it's like at that time of the morning in Scipioville. Guess it must be pitch dark, going on what he says.