The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003

[sandra L]

I find it interesting that any professional psychologist would make a diagnosis on the basis of one poem, without any other information within which to contextualise that poem. He did not meet Luke, speak with him, examine him, ask him what he intended or meant when he wrote the poem etc etc..

On reflection, it's not that surprising in this case. Remember when Ian Stephen gave his "professional" opinion about the "satanic scribblings" and what they told himm about Luke's psychological state? Didn't he look a bit silly when the Frontline documentary exposed that he didn't know that the quotes he said caused him the most concern were from a computer game, and the worst Luke could be accused of was plagiarism, and that all he knew about the case was what he had read in the press.

Not really very professional at all.

[sandra L]

From 'memory' what did the professionals who spoke with Luke before his trial say about him? I'm presuming a pre trial report of his mental state was carried out?

Was any diagnosis suggested?

Normal psychological profile except that he insisted he was innocent, which appeared to confuse them somewhat.

[Baz]

I imagine the professional psychologist also used their knowledge of the case and the injuries inflicted on his victim

Exactly, which would colour anyone's interpretation of a piece of writing. So the psychologist is judging this as the writings of a killer but if Luke is innocent, and this is about his anger at being wrongfully convicted, then the interpretation would be off. Does that make sense?

[nugnug]

i can only conclude he hasnt read much peotry and pscholgists do get things wrong somtimes

[Stephanie]

12 years old and threatening a 12 year old girl with a knife because she wouldn't have sex with him is not normal!

[sandra L]

Nor is it truthful!

[marty]

Isn't this your explanation for why Mia didn't care/notice the body when she passed it on the way up? Because Luke hadn't put her in "tracking mode"?   

If you knew anything about dogs you would know that's entirely possible. But it's only one of a few possibilities imo

[Stephanie]

If you knew anything about dogs you would know that's entirely possible. But it's only one of a few possibilities imo

Rubbish - we only have Luke's word that Mia didn't detect anything along the path on the way to meet the 3 others.

Plus, if you knew anything about dogs, they don't need to be told by a human to be in any kind of mode in order to smell blood.

Oh and Marty - Sandra's here - you can ask her directly about some of the things she said last year about the Mitchell's and of some of the behaviours that gave her cause for concern. Or are you going to miss the opportunity, so that you can harass me when she's gone?

[marty]

Utter drivel

[Stephanie]

Utter drivel

If you believe it to be utter drivel - pray tell how you know for certain Mia didn't react at the V in the wall on the way to meet the Jones family members?

[marty]

Rubbish - we only have Luke's word that Mia didn't didn't anything along the path on the way to meet the 3 others.

Plus, if you knew anything about dogs, they don't need to be told by a human to be in any kind of mode in order to smell blood.

Oh and Marty - Sandra's here - you can ask her directly about some of the things she said last year about the Mitchell's and of some of the behaviours that gave her cause for concern. Or are you going to miss the opportunity, so that you can harass me when she's gone?

Only one person who harrasses anyone on here with utter drivel..
Is this the same information you claim to know but refuse to divulge . Is that because if it came from xxx xxxx xxx xx xxx xxxxx xxxxxxx xxx.
Wonder why?.
Why would anyone believe you? I mean really

[marty]

If you believe it to be utter drivel - pray tell how you know for certain Mia didn't react at the V in the wall on the way to meet the Jones family members?

I never said I knew for sure. I meant it was possible.

[Stephanie]

Only one person who harrasses anyone on here with utter drivel..
Is this the same information you claim to know but refuse to divulge . Is that because if it came from you no one would believe you?.
Wonder why?.
Why would anyone believe you? I mean really

What's your agenda Marty?

What are you talking about 'no one would believe me?' Oh - are you one of the few who are attempting to suggest SH was innocent? 

[marty]

What about duckies dogs... did they react

[marty]

There we go, knew it wouldn't be long