Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 1055630 times)

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no i mean never denied it.

they claimed it transferred innocently witch means they admit it is there.
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I know he hasn't denied his sperm being present, but ask Sandra where the "it was Kellys semen on Jodi's bra" theory originally came from. There is nothing in the evidence stating the DNA on the bra is his at all.

Lithium could you provide a source please?

You continually call Sandra Lean a liar, knowing that the law is against her to post certain evidence/documents etc publicly.  She provides what she can, within the law, so that the public can make an informed decision themselves as to whether Luke Mitchell could be innocent of this crime.  This woman has put everything into this case, (and others), for truth and justice. Why would you or anyone else want to have a go at her for that? 

To my knowledge she has no family that has been a miscarriage of justice victim, but yet she does what she does to help people who have had their lives torn apart due to the system getting it wrong.  I think I can speak on behalf of many people that we need people like Sandra Lean.  The abuse that she has had to endure over the years by certain people for supporting moj victims and their families has been disgusting, the least she deserves is respect, IMO, and not being called a liar.

My take on it was that it was a full DNA match for Kelly on the teeshirt, I am unsure what the result was for the semen on the bra.

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your really trying to wish that particular fact arnt you but it wont work.

people can see the gaurdion artificial.

the proscution admits there they just dispute how it got there hence the borrowed t shirt claim.

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Sorry once said but please do tell me how I can provide a source for nothing ? Sandra's the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on her not I. If she posts proof Kelly's sperm was on the bra, I'll be proved wrong. Can only laugh at your praise of Sandra, I've never really disrespected her. She disrespects the victims family regularly, incest jokes etc...
That is a very serious accusation Lithium. Could you please provide a link to such jokes made by Sandra L please?

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of course he cant he made it up.

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IF he does, I hope you two will be among the first to condemn the comments and the poster?

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well it depends what he is supposed to have said.

if it was said in a private message that's fair enough.

but as usal he is yet to prove anything other than the fact his an idiot.
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well it depends what he is supposed to have said.

if it was said in a private message that's fair enough.

Do you mean SHE? Sorry, I thought that the comments were relating to Sandra L?

And the second part of your post - are you saying that if Sandra L has made incest jokes regarding the members of the family - that's okay as long as it is in a private message?

I am just checking, I don't want to put words into your mouth.

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mat and lith trying to divert from the subject again because they havent got an argument.

all they have is character assassination.

proves how desprate lithums getting.

sandra has made no public posts saying anything of the sort.
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Oh, no - I'm not trying to divert from the case. I think that the semen evidence we're talknig about is GREATLY relevant to the case and almost make or break? So it's important to understand where that evidence originated and both the defence and prosecution's stance on said evidence.

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are so you do admit it exists now.

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Errr.. I never said it didn't?

You're failing to follow again, Nugnug... (God, I've missed you!)

The area of the evidence, how it got there etc etc is what's been disputed.

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everyone can so you did you pratt.

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everyone can so you did you pratt.

What??

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then how would you know she said it then.

and youve got no right to talk about honesty.
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