The last ultimate test of gun, to prove sound moderator was not used in shooting

[mike tesko]

But...

It gets worse...

Dc Hammersley did not find the silencer, at the scene on 7th august 1985. Ds Jones did...

[mike tesko]

Seizure of the first silencer (SBJ/1) by DS Stan Jones from the scene on 7th August 1985, proved problematic to the ' OPERATIONS MANAGER' (OM)..

[mike tesko]

I can now report that DC Hammersley refused to agree to tampering with the original exhibit references belonging to items, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, and wanted nothing whatsoever to do with the silencer recovered by DS Jones from the scene on morning of 7th August 1985...

[mike tesko]

I can now report that DC Hammersley refused to agree to tampering with the original exhibit references belonging to items, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, and wanted nothing whatsoever to do with the silencer recovered by DS Jones from the scene on morning of 7th August 1985...

When he was seen by the COLP investigators at the beginning of the 1990's, he yelled out, without being prompted, "I didn't find it"...

He was referring to the silencer (SBJ/1) RECOVERED BY DS JONES from the scene on 7th August 1985...

[grahameb]

When he was seen by the COLP investigators at the beginning of the 1990's, he yelled out, without being prompted, "I didn't find it"...

He was referring to the silencer (SBJ/1) RECOVERED BY DS JONES from the scene on 7th August 1985...

I thought he was in tears and said, "It wasn't me"? But no one on the forum knew what he was talking about?

[scipio_usmc]

But...

It gets worse...

Dc Hammersley did not find the silencer, at the scene on 7th august 1985. Ds Jones did...

There is no evidence anyone found one that day.  You just keep repating the same nonsense liek a broken record.  You are lying about a moderator being found you made it up!  What evidence do you base your claims on?  None you made it up.

Hammersley broke down because of his marriage was destroyed:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3503.0

I gave you the rope to hang yourself na dyou did, yo ujus tkeep lying your arse off and contradicting yourself.  You have ruined any chance of having any credibility which is apparanetly why Jeremy wants you to stop.  Your lies ruin any chance of rational people believing any allegations he makes.

Instead of helping him you harm him. 

[lookout]

 And your Sermons are going to help Jeremy,are they ?? Like Hell they are !
 This is why you've come on this forum,to purposely overturn any argument in his favour,and add your poison here like you've done elsewhere.

What's in it for you,then,and all the rest of the maggots ??

[mike tesko]

There is no evidence anyone found one that day.  You just keep repating the same nonsense liek a broken record.  You are lying about a moderator being found you made it up!  What evidence do you base your claims on?  None you made it up.

Hammersley broke down because of his marriage was destroyed:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3503.0

I gave you the rope to hang yourself na dyou did, yo ujus tkeep lying your arse off and contradicting yourself.  You have ruined any chance of having any credibility which is apparanetly why Jeremy wants you to stop.  Your lies ruin any chance of rational people believing any allegations he makes.

Instead of helping him you harm him.

Shut your lousy mouth you idiot, you do not know what you are talking about, there is ample evidence to prove a silencer was taken by the police on 7th August 1985...

[scipio_usmc]

Shut your lousy mouth you idiot, you do not know what you are talking about, there is ample evidence to prove a silencer was taken by the police on 7th August 1985...

Well where is this evidence and when are you going to present it?

So far you have been presenting documents ceoncerning events in September-December of 1985 and even 1986 but nothing to establish any moderator was taken from WHF on 8/7/85 let alone one taken by Stanley Jones.

[mike tesko]

Police documents, and police records prove that police had a silencer in their possession from 7th August 1985, onwards. DS Davidson even fingerprinted it on the 9th August 1985, so put that in your pipe and smoke it...

Everybody now knows that the key police officer at the centre of the silencer debackle  (DS Jones) falsified entries in a re- written pocketbook, so that the truth about his involvement with at least two different key silencers could be suppressed. Any way, I am not remotely interested in what you have to say because all you keep harping on about is to say, "there is no evidence", when all along there is...

You obviously haven't got a clue as to what constitutes evidence in English law, and you talk shit...

I am putting you on ignore from now on, because you are clearly out just to try and cause trouble...

GOOD LUCK, loser...

[scipio_usmc]

Police documents, and police records prove that police had a silencer in their possession from 7th August 1985, onwards. DS Davidson even fingerprinted it on the 9th August 1985, so put that in your pipe and smoke it...

Everybody now knows that the key police officer at the centre of the silencer debackle  (DS Jones) falsified entries in a re- written pocketbook, so that the truth about his involvement with at least two different key silencers could be suppressed. Any way, I am not remotely interested in what you have to say because all you keep harping on about is to say, "there is no evidence", when all along there is...

You obviously haven't got a clue as to what constitutes evidence in English law, and you talk shit...

I am putting you on ignore from now on, because you are clearly out just to try and cause trouble...

GOOD LUCK, loser...

You have yet to present these documents that establish they had a moderator in their possession on August 7 and fingerprinted in on August 9.   You keep saying you have documents to prove it but have failed to produce any that actually confirm such things.

 

[mike tesko]

I have previously demonstrated that DS Stan Jones took four exhibits from the scene on 7th August 1985, SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4. Sheila Caffells blood was found inside a silencer bearing the identifying mark of SBJ/1. DS Davidson (SOC) fingerprinted this SBJ/1) silencer on the 9th August 1985. DCI Jones and DS Jones spoke to Jeremy at his cottage at Head Street, Goldhanger, that same date, about the silencer in question, this was before relatives found the other silencer (SJ/1) in the gun cupboard at the scene on 10th August 1985, which Peter Eaton handed over to DS Jones on evening of 12th August 1985...

Any way, there is an abundance of evidence available to prove the existence of at least two key silencers, and everyone would do well to remember that...

None of Sheila's blood was found inside the silencer found by relatives and given to police...

We can now prove that the relatives handed over the same (SJ/1) silencer (DRB/1) twice. This was done once on the evening of 12th August 1985, and secondly by Ann Eaton on the 11th September 1985. This very same silencer was examined at the lab' on two separate occasions, firstly on the 13th August 1985, and secondly on the 26th September 1985. This silencer was never present at all at the Lab' at any stage between 13th August and the 20th September 1985, therefore it could not have been the same silencer (SBJ/1 - DB/1) inside which was found Sheila's blood, or the blood of the other victims...

DS Stan Jones was a dishonest police officer who thought nothing of fabricating a bit of evidence here or there, as evidenced by reference to his dodgy pocketbook (49) which has three separate start dates on its front cover:-

[mike tesko]

I have previously mentioned that four key exhibits which originally occupied exhibit References DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, were vacated and had their exhibit references changed so that police could add four additional bullet cases into the main bedroom scenario, which enabled the prosecution to argue in the presence of the jury that Ralph Bamber had been shot at least four times in the bedroom upstairs before going downstairs, and that he would not have been able to use the telephone to make the call to Jeremy that Jeremy says he received from him, because he had been shot in the mouth, etc...

That argument was a lie, since if police had not vacated the first four exhibit references of DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, by reallocating these four original items the alternative exhibit reference numbers of DRH/50, DRH/51, DRH/52 and DRH/53, they would not have been able to introduce the four additional bullet cases to enable them to make out such a case, regarding Ralphs injuries preventing him from making the call in question...

[scipio_usmc]

I have previously demonstrated that DS Stan Jones took four exhibits from the scene on 7th August 1985, SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4.

You demonstrated no such thing.  You suggested a photo was marked exhibit SBJ/2 but failed to establish it was officially classified by this exhibit number and if true all it would do is suggest multiple photos were initially attributed to him but officially designated by a different prefix.

In the meantime the items found by Boutflour that were hande dover to poline on August 12th are the items that were officially designated SBJ/1-4.

Sheila Caffells blood was found inside a silencer bearing the identifying mark of SBJ/1. DS Davidson (SOC) fingerprinted this SBJ/1) silencer on the 9th August 1985. DCI Jones and DS Jones spoke to Jeremy at his cottage at Head Street, Goldhanger, that same date, about the silencer in question, this was before relatives found the other silencer (SJ/1) in the gun cupboard at the scene on 10th August 1985, which Peter Eaton handed over to DS Jones on evening of 12th August 1985...

Once again you are making allegations without posting any evidence.  There is evidence that proves the moderator found by Boutflour was designated SBJ/1, the scope SBJ/2 , the ...   There is no evidence at all converning a moderator that was found and fingerprinted let alone that had Sheila's fingerprints. 

Any way, there is an abundance of evidence available to prove the existence of at least two key silencers, and everyone would do well to remember that...

You have yet to produce any evidence of this there is nothing to remember.

None of Sheila's blood was found inside the silencer found by relatives and given to police...

While you allege such the police have produeced evidence that says otherwise and your barebones allegations are unable to refute their evidence.

We can now prove that the relatives handed over the same (SJ/1) silencer (DRB/1) twice. This was done once on the evening of 12th August 1985, and secondly by Ann Eaton on the 11th September 1985. This very same silencer was examined at the lab' on two separate occasions, firstly on the 13th August 1985, and secondly on the 26th September 1985. This silencer was never present at all at the Lab' at any stage between 13th August and the 20th September 1985, therefore it could not have been the same silencer (SBJ/1 - DB/1) inside which was found Sheila's blood, or the blood of the other victims...

Yet again all naked allegations that you have produced not a shred of evidence to establish to actually be true.

DS Stan Jones was a dishonest police officer who thought nothing of fabricating a bit of evidence here or there, as evidenced by reference to his dodgy pocketbook (49) which has three separate start dates on its front cover:-

The fact the start dates were crossed off merely means it wasn't used for the dates in question but eventually was used and for the date not crossed out.  This doesn't prove anything at all nefarious.

[mike tesko]

It is now possible to identify the date when these alterations came into force, and exactly when the police first decided to introduce four bullet cases to the main bedroom scenario so that they could say that 13 bullets had been fired in that bedroom, when all along there had only been 9 shots fired there...