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Offline mike tesko

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A stop needs to be made to other people changing the meaning of what I have been saying or posting, since the way these people are reporting these things they are trying to change the meaning and purpose of what I report. Sometimes, I am reporting what is posted elsewhere on other web sites, sometimes I am reporting what has been posted on our forum, or in newspaper reports or TV bulletins, or be reference to some evidential fact contained in the case files, yet there are some who are repeatedly altering these references as though I have said this, or I have said that...

A typical example, is where these other people have been saying that Sheila was shot on the second occasion two hours or more after the first shot across the neck was inflicted, which is not something I have been saying at all. Although there is evidence available to confirm that there was ample delay between the firing of the two shots, where blood that ran from the original bullet wound on Sheila's neck, and the rear of her nightdress, which had clearly already dried before the second shot was discharged in her neck under the chin, a feature everyone can see in the photograph posted previously. What I would like to do, is ask everyone how long do you think the blood trail from the lower non fatal wound on her neck was inflicted, as compared to the fresh looking blood that was photographed running, pouring and leaking from the upper fatal bullet wound?

There is clearly a significant delay, between the firing of both shots, not only in the angle of the rifle at the time each shot was discharged, but chiefly because the first shot was non fatal, and the second shot was fatal. The delay between both shots (bullet PV/20 and PV/19) can be seen in the photographs taken at around 10 O'clock by PC Bird (SOC), where the vertical blood trail is dried, whilst the horizontal blood trails are wet and fresh looking...

Linked to these discrepancies, is the presence of the heavy bloodstain present upon the rear of Sheila's nightdress which had clearly dried prior to her body being laid out on the bedroom floor adjacent to the parents bed. None of the blood on the rear of the nightdress was transferred onto the rug / carpet beneath Sheila's body where it was photographed from around 10 O'clock onwards, so it is safe to assume, safe to conclude, that the lower bullet wound on Sheila's neck, with its corresponding vertical dried blood stain running down her neck, is linked and associated to the dried bloodstain on the reverse of her nightdress, and that in fact Sheila must have been laid somewhere else at the scene beforehand, somewhere where the blood on the reverse of her nightdress was replicated or transferred onto the bed in the main bedroom, or the floor in the kitchen...
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Based upon the available dry blood trail which has run vertically down Sheila's neck, and the dried bloodstain on the reverse of her nightdress which was not replicated on the carpet beneath Sheila's body, it does not appear to me to be a sufficient amount of blood loss to have killed her any time soon after the first lower non fatal shot was, or has been inflicted. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the rate with which blood ran out of the first lower bullet entry wound and stained her neck, and stained the rear of her nightdress, it might easily have been an hour or so before the second shot was received...

There is absolutely no evidence to indicate that Sheila bleed heavily either internally, or externally as a result of that first shot, unlike what happened once the second fatal shot was inflicted whilst the body was laid out flat...

Despite what others are saying about the delay between shots only being a minimal amount of time, or delay, I would disagree with what they are saying and have said, otherwise the blood-staining on the reverse of Sheila's nightdress would almost certainly have become transferred onto the carpet beneath her body, but since it did not, it has to be accepted that there must have been a considerable delay before the bloodstain on the rear of the nightdress dried sufficiently so as not to be capable of transferring onto the bedroom carpet once her body was positioned there on the bedroom floor...

Note, that there is an area of clotted blood on the rear of the nightdress where the blood pooled whilst she was laid in the supine position, somewhere else at the scene, other than on the bedroom floor...
« Last Edit: June 29, 2014, 10:36:AM by mike tesko »
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After each of the two shots were discharged into Sheila's neck,the following occurred:-

SHOT 1

She was standing upright and slightly twisted at the time the first non fatal shot inflicted across her neck was received, she fell to the ground and her head ended up turned slightly to the right. There was not a great deal of external blood loss at this time, but sufficient to leave a horizontal trail on the neck, which changed direction once her body fell to the floor, evidence of which can be seen upon her neck in the form of dried blood trails...
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After each of the two shots were discharged into Sheila's neck,the following occurred:-

SHOT 1

She was standing upright and slightly twisted at the time the first non fatal shot inflicted across her neck was received, she fell to the ground and her head ended up turned slightly to the right. There was not a great deal of external blood loss at this time, but sufficient to leave a horizontal trail on the neck, which changed direction once her body fell to the floor, evidence of which can be seen upon her neck in the form of dried blood trails...

This shot (1) is consistent with her having been involved in some sort of a struggle during which time she was shot across the neck...
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After Sheila fell to the kitchen floor, blood continued to trickle out of the solitary bullet wound on her neck, and soaked the rear of her nightdress and the surface beneath her body...
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After Sheila fell to the kitchen floor, blood continued to trickle out of the solitary bullet wound on her neck, and soaked the rear of her nightdress and the surface beneath her body...

Much later when she regained her consciousness, and she had got herself upstairs into the bedroom, she collapsed on the bed (possibly next to her mothers body), and at that stage some of the blood-staining on the rear of her nightdress may have become transferred onto the bed-clothing or linen / cotton bed sheet...
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By the time police shifted Sheila's body from the bed, any blood on the rear of her nightdress as a direct result of being shot on the first occasion, had dried sufficiently so as not to allow it to be transferred onto the rug / carpet upon which her body was stage managed...
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During the period when Sheila regained consciousness, and got herself upstairs to the main bedroom, blood had already ceased from running from the solitary wound on her neck, and to a lesser extent the blood on the rear of her nightdress had already dried sufficiently so as not to run or alter the blood staining there. These are the circumstances which permitted Sheila to move from one part of the farmhouse (kitchen) to the other (the bedroom) without any additional bloodstain evidence to support what had taken place...
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During the period when Sheila regained consciousness, and got herself upstairs to the main bedroom, blood had already ceased from running from the solitary wound on her neck, and to a lesser extent the blood on the rear of her nightdress had already dried sufficiently so as not to run or alter the blood staining there. These are the circumstances which permitted Sheila to move from one part of the farmhouse (kitchen) to the other (the bedroom) without any additional bloodstain evidence to support what had taken place...

In order to travel from the kitchen downstairs, to the main bedroom upstairs, Sheila would have to walk around however briefly upon the bloodstained bedroom carpet. As a result there would have to be some evidence upon the soles of her feet, in support of this - during the trial and for many years since, the police. prosecution, and thier supporters have wrongly claimed that Sheila's hands and the soles of her feet were spotlessly clean...

But...

THEY HAVE BEEN LYING, and THE JURY WHICH TRIED THIS MATTER WERE DELIBERATELY DECEIVED REGARDING THIS...

Here is the evidence which exposes the police, prosecution case as nothing but a deliberate, despicable LIE...
« Last Edit: June 29, 2014, 11:37:AM by mike tesko »
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 Mike,how long after a first shot,would a second one be,in an automatic rifle. Is it a consecutive thing,or does the trigger have to be depressed in order to allow that second shot to occur ?

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Mike,how long after a first shot,would a second one be,in an automatic rifle. Is it a consecutive thing,or does the trigger have to be depressed in order to allow that second shot to occur ?

Hi Lookout,

It would require the shooter to activate the trigger before the second bullet would be discharged from the same gun. The delay between discharge of one bullet and the next from the anshuzt rifle could range between a split second, and as long as an hour or so, or whatever it took between both shots...
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Hi Lookout,

It would require the shooter to activate the trigger before the second bullet would be discharged from the same gun. The delay between discharge of one bullet and the next from the anshuzt rifle could range between a split second, and as long as an hour or so, or whatever it took between both shots...





Thanks Mike. So I'm right in thinking that it could accidentally be depressed also,given the sensitivity of the rifle being a semi-automatic.

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Thanks Mike. So I'm right in thinking that it could accidentally be depressed also,given the sensitivity of the rifle being a semi-automatic.

Yes, trigger mechanism could be accidentally depressed discharging a round if the weapon was still loaded...
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We now know that Sheila walked on the bloodstained carpet in the main bedroom, and that the blood on the sole of her foot belonged to June Bamber, so Sheila was mobile in the bedroom after June was shot and killed, and if she was and did, then she did nothing to come to her mothers aid, now that / this just doesn't equate with a totally innocent Sheila Caffell, now does it...
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We now know that Sheila walked on the bloodstained carpet in the main bedroom, and that the blood on the sole of her foot belonged to June Bamber, so Sheila was mobile in the bedroom after June was shot and killed, and if she was and did, then she did nothing to come to her mothers aid, now that / this just doesn't equate with a totally innocent Sheila Caffell, now does it...
On the other hand the blood on Sheila's feet could have been from a trail left on the landing by a bleeding Nevill. I assume Sheila walked into the master bedroom though the main door and not through the interconnecting door from the twins' room,otherwise why was there no blood on the carpet in that area?