Taff Jones:

[Adam]

Some of Jeremys supporters claim Jeremy is innocent because Taff Jones believed so.

If that was the case he must have had compelling evidence. So when other people questioned Taff,   he could just show them this evidence. Any doubters will then just fall back into line & committ themselves to the murder/suicide theory.

But Taff Jones was taken off the case. So it seems Taff had no evidence. Only a belief that Jeremy was innocent.

Taff refused to change direction despite the mounting evidence and feeling amongst the other officers. He was rightly taken off the case.

If Taff had no evidence of Jeremys innocence, why did he refuse to change direction ? Perhaps it was more work and he preferred to play golf.

Or maybe he did have evidence but the other officers had decided to frame Jeremy.

[Patti]

Equally. Jeremy isn't guilty Adam, because he was not liked, lived the high life and was a arrogant sod. This alone does not make him the killer...But, to incriminate someone for the pleasure of it is a crime in its self. I personally don't like Jeremy, I have said this before.   

This whole case lacks good solid evidence that places Jeremy at the crime scene. Instead the jury had to rely on testimonies and decide on who and what they believed rather than the said evidence. 

[Adam]

There is good solid evidence placing Jeremy at the scene.

No alibi. A motive, an opportunity, a brutally beaten 6.4 fit man & lots of forensic reasons why Sheila did not commit the massacre. Jeremys phone call to the police also rounded the suspects down to two.

[lookout]

 There is NO solid evidence at all. Rubbish !

[Adam]

Just had a brief look at the CTSB video.

Bob Miller says that the technicians said it was Sheila's blood after examining the silencer. Julie had also come forward who Miller thought was a plausible witness.

Miller says all the senior detectives had a meeting. They all agreed Jeremy was the most likely killer. Except Taff.

Did Taff have evidence the other people did not ? Why didn't he disclose it, rather than let Jeremy be charged.

I doubt that Taff had information other senior officers did not have. They were all working on the case together so there was no point hiding anything.

[lookout]

 I've got news for you,Adam. " Taff " Jones first suspect in the murders,was June. He actually told reporters at the time,,who were waiting in Pages Lane for information,,who,in turn,rushed to the press to report the findings. Headlines for that short space of time read,I quote," Grandmother June Bamber had gone crazy,etc etc ",unquote. Thomas Jones had passed the incident off as a domestic and had told journos' that they wouldn't be bothered with it.

Then there was an about turn which quickly pointed to Sheila. The rest is history,,but not so far as I'm concerned !!

[lookout]

 Thomas Jones was a no-nonsense cop,,and straight to the point with no elaborations. He knew what he was talking about,,and he also KNEW that Jeremy was innocent by what he obviously found on entry,,and to which we might never have the privilege of knowing,least of all Jeremy who's left festering while the ink on the original logs and notes will be fading to obscurity.

[lookout]

 " Taff " Thomas Jones NEVER lied throughout his 30 years service,and having also been awarded 10 commendations.
I don't/can't remember reading of any other officer who matched this testimonial !

Up until the day the man died,,he would NEVER be budged from his original decision that Jeremy was innocent.

[Jan]

There is good solid evidence placing Jeremy at the scene.

No alibi. A motive, an opportunity, a brutally beaten 6.4 fit man & lots of forensic reasons why Sheila did not commit the massacre. Jeremys phone call to the police also rounded the suspects down to two.

Explain how the above is "SOLID EVIDENCE" that Jeremy allegedly - returned to the house - put on a wet suit and gloves - but now apparently took them off to load the bullets -took the silencer off ,  put it in the cupboard  got out of a locked window ( because there is evidence that the POLICE tested them and they would not lock from the outside ) cycled home over fields ( whilst hovering so not to get dirt on the tyres - oops forgot about staging the phone . Calmed himself down - changed clothes - ( according to you no adreniline flowing through his viens by now even after the horrific crime )  etc etc etc.

Show me SOLID EVIDENCE not your assumptions.

[lookout]

 If Jeremy was sick with shock on the morning he was told about the tragedy,,then he as sure as hell would have thrown up after each person he was to purportedly have " killed " !

[grahameb]

It was not only Taff Jones who believed it was murder suicide. Every other police officer believed it until the extented family played upon the weak mind of one of the younger officers. The extended family were furious when the will was read and that the majority of the estate went to Jeremy.

[Adam]

It was not only Taff Jones who believed it was murder suicide. Every other police officer believed it until the extented family played upon the weak mind of one of the younger officers. The extended family were furious when the will was read and that the majority of the estate went to Jeremy.

Source please. Why would the relatives be expecting a big share of the wills ?

I provided a source stating the relatives were wealthy in their own right and had no reason to lie.

The police were lead in a direction. Some police suspected Jeremy from the beginning. As did the relatives.

Once the lab results came back & Julie approached the police, it was time for common sense to prevail.

[Adam]

" Taff " Thomas Jones NEVER lied throughout his 30 years service,and having also been awarded 10 commendations.
I don't/can't remember reading of any other officer who matched this testimonial !

Up until the day the man died,,he would NEVER be budged from his original decision that Jeremy was innocent.

Ten condemnations ? Source please.

That is a lot for a policeman who worked in an area where there was little or no crime. Source available upon request.

[grahameb]

Source please.

I provided a source stating the relatives were wealthy in their own right and had no reason to lie.

The police were lead in a direction. Some police suspected Jeremy from the beginning. As did the relatives.

Once the lab results came back & Julie approached the police, it was time for common sense to prevail.

Why do you keep asking for source? I thought you had read up on all this. By keep on asking for the source it just receals your ignorance of the case. This which I have said is common knowledge. Find it yourself. I'm not doing your detective work for you.
Re relatives. Don't be so gullible to believe everything they say about themselves. Even David Boutflour says that he diden't do too badly out of the inheritance. Just because people are well off it doesn't exclude them from greed. Man you're in for a big fall one day if you are that naive.

[Adam]

So you have not got a source. Oh dear.

Maybe you should stick to threads about withheld tapes which apparently would free Jeremy.