The Noble Cause Framing Theory

[lookout]

  I don't mind you being honest.I won't take umbridge.  Lovely sentiments though.x

[Caroline]

(Improved version)

Well, maybe, that's an exaggeration! But like Bob Woffinden, she is in a position of some influence. She is an administrator on a forum set up by Mike Tesko to raise awareness of Jeremy’s plight as a wrongly convicted man.

Notice how the guilters are delighted that Caroline is now, in effect, helping them. She has even got Mat coming along to give her his gentlemanly support.

You can’t leave those considerations out of it. Talk about  “opinions” is naïve. Pro guilt people tend to work as a group. Some of them don’t bother with doubts and opinions.

Her new stance is in effect a notable propaganda coup for the Ian Stephens and John Lamberton group who run both the red forum and the guilty page and for others with similar objectives. And that’s regardless of whether or not she sees it like that herself.

I think she knows what she is doing.

I certainly do, I'm stating my opinion just like you are but you seem more interested in me than the Jeremy Bamber case. People will talk!!  - Is this Goundhog Day or do we just have an echo in here?

[lookout]

 I would like to see the coroners report which enabled him to release the bodies for burial.

[lookout]

 Because if there'd been the slightest doubt,,other than the 4 murders and a suicide,,it would never have gone ahead.
Jeremy played no part in the initial burial procedures.It was up to the coroner.
My reason for saying this is because I've read " how quickly Jeremy wanted the family buried ".Wrong !

[maggie]

lookout I have always thought the 3 was very significant, 3 burns the number 3 was written on the note 5 times and I would think In the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost maybe relating to the 3.  The number 3 was very important to ever inflicted the burns.

Hi Susan yes the number 3 and circles have a huge significance in all religious and spiritual philosophies. Its very possible the use of 3 at WHF was used for a reason, we know AE tells us Sheila claimed to be a white witch, which is in fact a force for good. Did Sheila burn Nevill's back three times or was it done to incriminate Sheila ...... fact is we don't know.

[maggie]

Morning Maggie my dear  think bluing is a process applied to metal prior to its use to stop it from rusting maybe the bluing stops discolouration I am not sure we discussed this in full earlier with ngb but forgot most of it no doubt some guy on the forum will correct me or thee

Ooops think I got my lines crossed susie!!

[susan]

Maggie maybe I got mine crossed it has been known to happen (all the time) somebody will come on and get all technical about it and we will still be no wiser and do we care no we don't

[susan]

Maggie I agree and nobody seems to put any importance on the burn marks Sheila I suspect could be responsible Jeremy No I have asked the posters who believe he is guilty how he committed this horrendous crime but they all ignore me

[lookout]

 Because there's no proof,Susan. Look at poor Sheilas' history and compare.

[maggie]

Maggie I agree and nobody seems to put any importance on the burn marks Sheila I suspect could be responsible Jeremy No I have asked the posters who believe he is guilty how he committed this horrendous crime but they all ignore me

The guilters believe he's a psychopath although all reports tell us he isn't so are innocents missining something? I cannot believe a 'normal' mentally stable person could or would carry out such a crime although they could say they 'f'ing hated' their parents for various reasons when young and selfish. I also cannot see how Jeremy Bamber could have killed 3 healthy people with a .22 rifle. Apart from anything it was a HUGE risk imo

[maggie]

Maggie maybe I got mine crossed it has been known to happen (all the time) somebody will come on and get all technical about it and we will still be no wiser and do we care no we don't

No we don't!! 

[lookout]

 I agree with you Maggie.

[susan]

Hello Maggie

how do we know Jeremy is not a psychopath who has told us this and have we seen proof.

[lookout]

 Susan,,there's a part print-out somewhere from the polygraph.
 One of the questions was " could you punch someone " (probably worded differently)---------------I'd fail miserably,,,,,so how he passed that,God only knows.   Not a waver of the needle.

[maggie]

Hello Maggie

how do we know Jeremy is not a psychopath who has told us this and have we seen proof.

There is a copy of a report by a psychologist of one such test on the Official web site Susie. Apart from that it is something always repeated in books, Campaign Team  etc. That he has had 27 plus tests all showing high mental normality.