The Noble Cause Framing Theory

[grahameb]

Not a lot was  made of Bambers violent streak of how himself slashed another prisoner with a broken bottle bear in mind he had to smash the bottle first which makes it more pre meditated, much was made of the attack on bamber later in 2004, his lawyers made sure bamber attacking an inmate was kept very low key and forgotten its a case of  lets not show bamber can be violent, full Sutton was happy to go along because they don't like bad publicity.

I was under the impression that it was Bamber who was attacked?

[guest7363]

I was under the impression that it was Bamber who was attacked?

One attack was 1996 Grahame and the other 2004.

[Jane]

Mirror man Ryan Parry spends 24 hours with serial killers and .Try that on google April

Ralf, thank-you

[Caroline]

Perhaps this forum is not the correct place to show the evidence. As we are all well aware all evidence has to go through the correct procedure before it can be even considered.

He said he hasn't seen the evidence for himself - then again, he hasn't seen his kidney's either so that's proof? He said he knows 100% that Jeremy is innocent - if he does have evidence, it's no use him sitting on it, it's not going to hatch! While these claims are made a man languishes in prison so if they can prove it, why don't they do it? Why don't they all get together, trudge off to see SM, present their findings and get Jeremy out??

[Caroline]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mirror-man-ryan-parry-spends-262860

[lookout]

 And I had to forfeit £50 of my cold weather payment------------to pay for their ruddy comforts !!

[Jane]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mirror-man-ryan-parry-spends-262860

Thanks, Caroline. Doesn't sound like the kind of party I'd accept an invitation to

[No-Bits]

Bambergate. This is a lie that I believe you've made up.

I think BG, or his source may be simply misinterpreting the report.

Sheila was certified dead at 8:44am. This is however, the time that Dr. Craig certified death and is not an estimate of the time of her death.

 

[Steve_uk]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mirror-man-ryan-parry-spends-262860

Of course all men are capable of being driven to violence,growing up in an undemonstrative household,a loveless vacuum where Jeremy never experienced throughout that unconditional love,a role lookout fulfils on this site as Jeremy looks back on Granny Speakman and wonders what might have been,a boy who never felt a success at anything and as he passed into adolescence began to test his strength in the familial environment,yet Nevill and June had sown the seeds of their own destruction and are still regarded today as similar outlanders to those captives mentioned in the Mirror article..

[lookout]

Changing tack here slightly,,but I did read that an officer took a bible out of a cupboard and threw it onto the floor beside Sheila.This bible didn't have a spot of blood on it and appeared comparatively new ?
Where the dickens I read about it,,I don't know,,but compared to the open pages on it, while it was face down, showing where it landed,,,the verses/psalms were positively different to the " dog-eared " bible which was at the scene with pages covered in blood.

The new bible was the same version as the older one. This has remained a mystery to me and I know I didn't dream it.
Then of course,,there was the black-backed bible with the pictures in it.
Although I hated Divinity in school,,I used to score high ? I knew my hymns,psalms and passages.

[Jane]

Of course all men are capable of being driven to violence,growing up in an undemonstrative household,a loveless vacuum where Jeremy never experienced throughout that unconditional love,a role lookout fulfils on this site as Jeremy looks back on Granny Speakman and wonders what might have been,a boy who never felt a success at anything and as he passed into adolescence began to test his strength in the familial environment,yet Nevill and June had sown the seeds of their own destruction and are still regarded today as similar outlanders to those captives mentioned in the Mirror article..

Steve, I must ask from where you have proof that Jeremy never felt a success at anything.

[lookout]

 On whose decision was it made not to disclose evidence,regarding DNA testing on the bloodied bible ?

[lookout]

Where did the bible end up ? Why wasn't it presented at the 2002 appeal ?

[nugnug]

I think BG, or his source may be simply misinterpreting the report.

Sheila was certified dead at 8:44am. This is however, the time that Dr. Craig certified death and is not an estimate of the time of her death.

i find it very odd they couldent estimate a time of death when they had 5 bodys to work on i find it hard to belive they couldent give a time of death for any of them.

[lookout]

i find it very odd they couldent estimate a time of death when they had 5 bodys to work on i find it hard to belive they couldent give a time of death for any of them.

So do I nugs,,seeing as it's usually the first question that's asked after a murder. Time of death !