The Noble Cause Framing Theory

[susan]

Hi steve thanks for your reply.  Sheila had eaten later than the rest of the family so I cannot accept she was sleeping when Jeremy arrived on the scene surely she would have struggled and fought with Jeremy unless of course the voices she heard about killing her family were infact Jeremy's voice.

[Alias]

Hi steve thanks for your reply.  Sheila had eaten later than the rest of the family so I cannot accept she was sleeping when Jeremy arrived on the scene surely she would have struggled and fought with Jeremy unless of course the voices she heard about killing her family were infact Jeremy's voice.

I can´t see in what position Jeremy was while shooting Sheila - seems so awkward! Laying on his stomach on the floor? How? Steve_uk, you say you can picture this, can you explain?

[lookout]

 He'd have been covered in carpet fibres if he'd scrawped along the floor. Those wool carpets moult a bit.
Carpet samples were taken,,,in fact,,the police took enough pieces from here and there to make a fireside rug.

[lookout]

Like the blood and prints on the bible,,the forensic tests on the carpet pieces never came to light. 

[Steve_uk]

I can´t see in what position Jeremy was while shooting Sheila - seems so awkward! Laying on his stomach on the floor? How? Steve_uk, you say you can picture this, can you explain?

I don't see why Jeremy has to be in the position you suggest. He tells a weary young woman to lie down and be quiet,maybe he claims there are intruders but everything will be okay,or Robert Boutflour's suggestion was that June wanted her for a bible class..in any case Jeremy makes his first mistake by not shooting her cleanly the first time,understandable if you consider him guilty and everything he's gone through just to get to this stage.

[lookout]

Steve,,that being the case,,,why wasn't he filling his trousers at the thought that Sheila could still be alive while he and the police were outside ?

[maggie]

He'd have been covered in carpet fibres if he'd scrawped along the floor. Those wool carpets moult a bit.
Carpet samples were taken,,,in fact,,the police took enough pieces from here and there to make a fireside rug.

I believe for Sheila to be shot by someone else in the place she was found the angle of the gun would be impossible as it would need to be lower than the floor. If Sheila was found on the bed there is more of a possibility someone may have shot her and she was moved to the floor by the police  for some reason as we know AE was told she was found on the bed.

[Jane]

I don't see why Jeremy has to be in the position you suggest. He tells a weary young woman to lie down and be quiet,maybe he claims there are intruders but everything will be okay,or Robert Boutflour's suggestion was that June wanted her for a bible class..in any case Jeremy makes his first mistake by not shooting her cleanly the first time,understandable if you consider him guilty and everything he's gone through just to get to this stage.

Steve, having commanded Sheila to lay still, if he was standing he'd have had a problem with angles. Had he been standing above her the fatal bullet couldn't have occurred even if he'd forced her head upwards and backwards. He wouldn't have been able to control Sheila AND the angle of the gun........IMO

[susan]

lookout  fireside rug indeed!!!! but I do agree had Jeremy been at the scene he would have been covered in forensic evidence

[lookout]

 He'd have been a walking time-bomb,,Susan.   Instead,,he was a sitting duck.

[Steve_uk]

Steve,,that being the case,,,why wasn't he filling his trousers at the thought that Sheila could still be alive while he and the police were outside ?

Well he did finish her off lookout with the second shot,whereupon Sheila slumped down,Jeremy pulling her legs to check on death,thereby rucking up the nightie. As it happens Jeremy did attempt to delay entry by all means possible.

[maggie]

He'd have been a walking time-bomb,,Susan.   Instead,,he was a sitting duck.

Haha!  Very good Lookout.

[susan]

Maggie but Sheila would have fought for her life she would not have just let Jeremy shoot her does not make sense at all unless Jeremy had an accomplice who held Sheila down but I don't believe that either. Infact not sure what I believe anymore

[Steve_uk]

Steve, having commanded Sheila to lay still, if he was standing he'd have had a problem with angles. Had he been standing above her the fatal bullet couldn't have occurred even if he'd forced her head upwards and backwards. He wouldn't have been able to control Sheila AND the angle of the gun........IMO

We know what state Sheila is in a few hours before just by chance due to Pamela's telephone call. Yes this is all conjecture,but I don't see any problem with angles of bullets,at least not enough to prevent death from occurring simulating suicide.

[Alias]

I don't see why Jeremy has to be in the position you suggest. He tells a weary young woman to lie down and be quiet,maybe he claims there are intruders but everything will be okay,or Robert Boutflour's suggestion was that June wanted her for a bible class..in any case Jeremy makes his first mistake by not shooting her cleanly the first time,understandable if you consider him guilty and everything he's gone through just to get to this stage.

That is where I have a hard time. I cannot imagine anybody lying down peacefully to be shot! Thanks for answering btw!
It also does not make sense for Jeremy to have shot her twice if he wanted it to appear to be a suicide. It is clear from photos of Sheila that she moved her hand to the first wound, so I can also not see how the gun could have gone off by accident. As far as I can see it must have been intentional, as the second shot was fatal and Sheila couldn´t have moved after that.
This scene makes zero sense to me.