Jeremys second phone call to Julie:

[Neil]

There are lots of reasons why Jeremy has protested his innocence.

I feel a thread coming.

Oh blimey!  Sorry everyone. 

[Adam]

The jury obviously concluded that Jeremy was not a credible witness.

The jury concluded that Julie was, but crucially....they didn't know about the media deal.
Had the judge been aware, her evidence would have been inadmissible, wouldn't it?

It was a high profile case. The main players having provisional deals ready upon conviction/acquittal.

Nothing would have been signed until the verdict.

Standard practice.

[Neil]

It was a high profile case. The main players having provisional deals ready upon conviction/acquittal.

Nothing would have been signed until the verdict.

All I can say Adam, is that if I was on that jury and knew about the deal and her previous financial misdemeanours, I would have totally disregarded her evidence.

[Alias]

Not only her thighs, susie.... This on the back of the tragic killing of five people, including two little kids, all of whom she had actually seen in their deaths.
I have to question her mental state and judgement and have a hard time seeing her as a credible witness - as it was, she was the prosecution´s "star" witness.

[Adam]

All I can say Adam, is that if I was on that jury and knew about the deal and her previous financial misdemeanours, I would have totally disregarded her evidence.

The jury were told about the cheque book fraud.

[Adam]

Julie looked naturally pretty when interviewed on TV after the verdict. What a pity the NOTW changed that.

[Alias]

Caroline, why aren´t those pics of Julie not in the picture thread? BTW, have noticed that you have put piccies in there in the correct places! So nice to see that, warms my heart! 

[Neil]

The jury were told about the cheque book fraud.

It has been proved that Julie is someone capable of telling lies and committing criminal acts, in order to make money.  Her evidence must be massively questioned / disregarded.

[Adam]

It has been proved that Julie is someone capable of telling lies and committing criminal acts, in order to make money.  Her evidence must be massively questioned / disregarded.

What lies ?

The £800.00 cheque book fraud with a friend was a first offence I beleive. Unless you count her acting as look out upon Jeremys demand while he robbed his own family. Something Julie told the police about, without being asked to.

[Neil]

What lies ?

The £800.00 cheque book fraud with a friend was a first offence I beleive. Unless you count her acting as look out upon Jeremys demand while he robbed his own family. Something Julie told the police about, without being asked to.

She is guilty, by her own admission, of theft and fraud.  That makes her a liar in my book and certainly not someone I would trust.

The fact that she had an accomplice on each occasion, is irrelevant. 

[lookout]

Julie had a tongue in her head,,she could have stopped Jeremy from going into the office at the caravan site-------------but she didn't,did she ? Neither did she run away and leave him to it !
As far as I'm concerned with that episode,it was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
Her cheque fraud had nothing whatsoever to do with Jeremy. He was completely oblivious that he was wearing stolen trousers until she told him they were the proceeds of the theft.

[Jan]

Julie looked naturally pretty when interviewed on TV after the verdict. What a pity the NOTW changed that.

Do you think they FORCED her to pose like that then? And talk about her sex life?

She does not look that unhappy about it in the photo?

[Alias]

Do you think they FORCED her to pose like that then? And talk about her sex life?

She does not look that unhappy about it in the photo?

Wasn´t she with her mother a lot during the trial and after? Did Mary Mugford really think this was OK - didn´t she try to talk her daughter out of it - or was she all about the money too? How much extra did Julie get for the sleazy posing?

[grahameb]

There are lots of reasons why Jeremy has protested his innocence.

I feel a thread coming.

The main one of course is because he is innocent?

[Caroline]

Caroline, why aren´t those pics of Julie not in the picture thread? BTW, have noticed that you have put piccies in there in the correct places! So nice to see that, warms my heart! 

Which ones Alias? (hat 'aren't there)