What REALLY Convinces You That Jeremy Is Innocent/Guilty?

[grahameb]

Sheila would have been hyper,,no doubt about that. Schizophrenics aren't known for their regular 8 hour sleeping pattern at night. Even June woke at the least noise as she too was known as a poor sleeper,which Sheila would have known about,so it wouldn't have proved difficult for either women to engage themselves in conversation at an early hour.

I know for a fact that their sleep patterns are very irregular. I know someone who suffers from this illness and she sleeps during the day, but is up all night doing washing ot housework etc. Unless you live with someone like that you do not know what schizophrenics are like. You have to have eyes in the back of your head sometimes and it is very wearing at times. Something you just simply cannot understand or see the complexities of the illness unless you have someone close to you who suffers from it.

I'll tell you another thing about them. They do not believe there is anything wrong with them either and they will not take their medication unless you administer them to them yourself. They can be sneeky as well and fool you into thinking they take their medication. But secret it in their mouths and when you are not looking they spit them out down the toilet. So I don't need no "expert" to tell me about schizoprenics. In my experience most of the psychiatrists are loony as well.

[Jane]

If you take a medication, say a tranquiliser and then move or walk around you prevent that drug from working. Ordinary nurses will tell you this. Sit down Mr. Jones or it won't work they say. Sheila's bed looks unslept in to me. May I suggest that something was playing on her mind that night? Would it have been this discussion that Jeremy testified took place between her and her parents? Perhaps she was pacing around as the others slept? Went downstairs. Spotted the gun on the settle and saw the solution to all her problems?

Or how about the fact that she'd just been rejected by Colin and he'd left her at the one place she'd have given anything NOT to be, OR how about that her birth mother had recently rejected her on the grounds that her family  -SUCH irony- knew nothing of Sheila's existence. It doesn't take much to imagine how little she felt loved and valued.

[Alias]

I know for a fact that their sleep patterns are very unregular. I know someone who suffers from this illness and she sleep during the day, but is up all night doing washing ot housework etc. Unless you live with someone like that you do not know what schizophrenics are like. You have to have eyes in the back of your head sometimes and it is very wearing at times. Something you just simply cannot understand or see the complexities of the illness unless you have someone close to you who suffers from it.

I'll tell you another thing about them. They do not believe there is anything wrong with them either and they will not take their medication unless you administer them to them yourself. They can be sneeky as well and fool you into thinking they take their medication. But secret it in their mouths and when you are not looking they spit them out down the toilet. So I don't need no "expert" to tell me about schizoprenics. In my experience most of the psychiatrists are loony as well.

Sheila was known to skip her medication, but the Haloperidol was injected, so she couldn´t skip that. However, it was HALVED and she was due the next shot, so there wouldn´t have been much of it left in her system allowing her demons free reign.

[Adam]

Bullshit. You talk about Sheila as if she were a child, she was almost thirty. What you are doing is sullying her dignity. I am appalled.

I said Sheila was very light. As highlighted in the pictures of her. Easy for a 6 foot 24 year old to carry a few yards.

[Alias]

I said Sheila was very light. As highlighted in the pictures of her. Easy for a 6 foot 24 year old to carry a few yards.

She would have woken up, you are taking this out of thin air. Won´t discuss it anymore, it is just too stupid!

[grahameb]

Or how about the fact that she'd just been rejected by Colin and he'd left her at the one place she'd have given anything NOT to be, OR how about that her birth mother had recently rejected her on the grounds that her family  -SUCH irony- knew nothing of Sheila's existence. It doesn't take much to imagine how little she felt loved and valued.

She was greatly upset when Colin sprung it on her that he'd met someone else. For it was her dream that they were going to get back together. The rest of the journey to WHF she spent in silence. Her dream shattered. You can imagine what was going through her head can't you? Colin was going to probably get married to his new girlfriend (it is well to point out here that schizoprenics are so wrapped up in themselves that they simply cannot move on. They are locked into their own little world) and he would take her children with him and a stranger was going to become their mother and she was to be left alone. She had much that played on her mind that night and the world was all black to her.

[Adam]

She would have woken up, you are taking this out of thin air. Won´t discuss it anymore, it is just too stupid!

She may not have woken up. If in a deep sleep. Or by the time she started waking up Jeremy had her where he wanted her.

It would only take a few seconds to carry Sheila a few yards.

[grahameb]

Sheila was known to skip her medication, but the Haloperidol was injected, so she couldn´t skip that. However, it was HALVED and she was due the next shot, so there wouldn´t have been much of it left in her system allowing her demons free reign.

This injection would not work on her if her mind was active and disturbed. It is sometimes easy to counteract the effects of drugs.

[Jane]

Sheila was on powerful drugs. Which would have made her drowsey & uncordinated.

I am a deep sleeper. Can sleep anywhere & not be woken up. Howrver would wake if someone tried to pick me up. However a 7 year old or light woman....

Adam, GROW UP!! How many times have you been told that her drugs had been reduced to PREVENT drowsiness and lack of coordination. Sadly, she had emotional problems aplenty to prevent her from sleeping.

[grahameb]

I said Sheila was very light. As highlighted in the pictures of her. Easy for a 6 foot 24 year old to carry a few yards.

Speculation.

[Jane]

That is nothing to do with anything.

Sheila was a light woman. Jeremy a strong man.

If asleep Jeremy could easily pick her up & take her a few yards to another room. Sheila could remain asleep, or by the time she starts to wake, it is too late.

And the moon COULD be made of cheese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lookout]

She may not have woken up. If in a deep sleep. Or by the time she started waking up Jeremy had her where he wanted her.

It would only take a few seconds to carry Sheila a few yards.

Now who's clutching at straws ?

[grahameb]

And the moon COULD be made of cheese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah! They've been there and found out it was honeycomb. They tried to bring some moonrock back, but the time they got here they'd eaten it all except for a crumb of chocolate.

[Adam]

Speculation.

Yes it is.

There are lots of ways Sheila ended up into the far corner of the bedroom.

Carried.

She woke & went into her parents bedroom. Cowering in the corner when seeing a gun man enter the room.
 
She was taken there after brother Jeremy took her there.


Either way Sheila would not have known what was happening, so not putting up a fight.

[Jane]

She may not have woken up. If in a deep sleep. Or by the time she started waking up Jeremy had her where he wanted her.

It would only take a few seconds to carry Sheila a few yards.

I wonder why it's so important to you that Sheila was asleep. Perhaps if you share it with us it will prevent you from behaving like an irritating child.