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Offline mike tesko

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Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« on: March 14, 2011, 07:36:AM »
The police wanted to prove who actually made the call, not that such a call was not made...
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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 09:54:AM »
First I've heard of it ....

Offline TheBrilliantMistake

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 11:54:AM »
How interesting...

Not that the call was accepted as originating from WHF...

But that you've solved the problem of how to conjure material from nothing.
Standing on the shoulders of Newton and Einstein.

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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 03:16:PM »
The only thing EP were not sure about, was whether Ralph, the hit man, or Jeremy, made the call...
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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 03:19:PM »
The only thing EP were not sure about, was whether Ralph, the hit man, or Jeremy, made the call...

How were they sure that a call was made?

Offline mike tesko

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 03:58:PM »
The only thing EP were not sure about, was whether Ralph, the hit man, or Jeremy, made the call...

How were they sure that a call was made?
... Because of phone records linked to business (N&J Bamber Ltd) that was run from Whf...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 04:04:PM »
The only thing EP were not sure about, was whether Ralph, the hit man, or Jeremy, made the call...

How were they sure that a call was made?
... Because of phone records linked to business (N&J Bamber Ltd) that was run from Whf...

Mike can you elaborate, up until now I didn't think there was any evidence other than Jeremy's word that a call took place.

Offline Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 04:54:PM »
So the farmhouse had two telephone lines then? Otherwise how could specific phone records be attributed to N&J Bamber Ltd?

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 05:09:PM »
Any more info on this?

If the police knew a call had been made, they must also know what time it was made surely.

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 05:13:PM »
So the farmhouse had two telephone lines then? Otherwise how could specific phone records be attributed to N&J Bamber Ltd?

The 2002 Appeal Judgements states that there was only one line.

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 05:16:PM »
I think if it could be proved that there was a call, there would be more about it in the papers etc ...

Offline Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 05:30:PM »
So the farmhouse had two telephone lines then? Otherwise how could specific phone records be attributed to N&J Bamber Ltd?

The 2002 Appeal Judgements states that there was only one line.

How else can business calls be distinguished from private calls then?

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2011, 05:36:PM »
How else can business calls be distinguished from private calls then?
They're not?
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Offline Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2011, 05:42:PM »
... Because of phone records linked to business (N&J Bamber Ltd) that was run from Whf...
How else can business calls be distinguished from private calls then?
They're not?

Then Mike needs to clarify what phone records existed that could be linked to the business.

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Re: Essex police accepted call was made from Whf...
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2011, 05:51:PM »
Business calls were not differentiated per se...


precisely the same billing system is used across the nation, then and now (within any given carrier), then depending on the subscriber, appropriate tariffs applied... AFTER the fact.

The logs exist for private and business, esp in those days...

One telegraph pole, one wire to the house.

It's not impossible that in those days those on a business tariff might get more detailed billing, or the logs kept for longer, but with JB one would assume, connected to the same exchange as Nevill, same carrier (BT) if they couldn't get confirmation of calls JB made, then they wouldn't for NB either.


It was not too long ago that newspapers espoused the 'secret log that proves Nevill phoned the police' - which we've all seen and it hardly proves anything. Some see it as additional evidence to support Bamber, most see it as further confirmation of what we already knew... and appertains to the JB call only.

I eagerly await this new material.