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Offline maggie

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Re: Life still means life....
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2014, 12:58:PM »
In my opinion I think Jeremy is telling the truth about some of the things that happened whilst at the same time being slightly economical with modified versions of the truth in other areas. For example Jeremy's story in relation to the timing and sequence of the telephone calls puts Jeremy in the frame but his story, for me, is not convincing enough to take him out of the frame. I think he made a fatal mistake in his version of events and actions surrounding the alleged telephone calls.
Other mistakes then followed.....
Soon after every newspaper in the country had front page headlines telling the nation 'Sheila had shot everyone and had then committed suicide'. All daily news TV programs on all TV channels had the same story. The whole country was being told from every respected and
 trusted source of news 'Sheila had shot everyone and then committed suicide'. A very powerful scenario to be dealt with and handled by a 24 year old. In such circumstances it is not inconceivable a youthful perpetrator without much experience in terms of the years of life would let the guard slip and start to make some mistakes whilst possibly believing in an 'I can do anything' mentality.
In my opinion the above contributed to big mistake number 2 which was not taking the keys to White House Farm when they were offered to Jeremy by the Police. It would have been much better for Jeremy to have taken the keys to White House Farm moved in in order to oversee the harvest and sort things out inside the house. A good few weeks later take a holiday as the Autumn starts to settle in. In such circumstances a silencer would never have been found and there would have not been any opportunity for any alleged collusions which according to Jeremy have since taken place.
Hi curious, I can understand how you reach your conclusion. It just depends whether they were 'mistakes' by a guilty Jeremy or the innocent behaviour of a young man in a state of shock???

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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2014, 12:59:PM »
it wasnt just the fact that he cheated .but the fact he asked julies freind out in front of his g/f.
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2014, 01:00:PM »
then the corney admission line well tonights the night then.i cant beleive the jury.bought that stuff.

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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2014, 01:05:PM »
why didnt david napley.get a model the same size as sheila.and get her to use the gun unloaded it is possible for a sillencer to be used.if the big toe is being used as a trigger toe.
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2014, 01:13:PM »
what i dont understand either is.that jeremy is saying the sillencer was never used.because there is a documentery out there that shows that, a sillencer leaves a ring mark on the wound. there is a ring mark on one of sheilas wounds. so the sillencer was used once at least.why would sheila have washed the sillencer.and if she used the sillencer on the family  and the first shot on herself.why take it of and put it in the cuboard.if you were going to kill yoursel.and after the first shot.according to the corroner she would still be alive but would she not be in to much pain to.and dissorrientaded. to do that.

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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2014, 01:15:PM »
are u there maggie what do you think???

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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2014, 01:15:PM »
Hi curious, I can understand how you reach your conclusion. It just depends whether they were 'mistakes' by a guilty Jeremy or the innocent behaviour of a young man in a state of shock???

In my opinion if one is in a state of shock there would not really be any need or desire to buy every newspaper in the days that followed, discuss the wearing of make up in order to whiten ones appearance for a funeral or any need to set the video recorder to record the news coverage of the funerals.

Such a thirst for news coverage would probably fuel symptoms of shock possibly making such a shock worse.

I also think breaking into an empty house, where a murder had recently taken place, through a window which gives an appearance of being untouched, in order to get some car documents is stretching the explanation of shock as a cause of behavior.

Why not just innocently go to the house during the day whilst 'in shock' and then ask for required documents?
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2014, 01:18:PM »
also trying to sell naked photos of your sister to the red top newspaper.

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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2014, 01:19:PM »
the fact that he knew how to break into the house is also suspicious.

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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2014, 01:21:PM »
the fact that he knew how to break into the house is also suspicious.

Really? So did Ann Eaton and David Boutflour and probably Alan Pargeter, they used to get in and out of WHF that why when they were kids!!
Few people have the imagination for reality

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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2014, 01:22:PM »
he also broke into the caravan park aswell.

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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2014, 01:23:PM »
yeah but none of them broke in just after a murder.very insensitive.but he loved his family.and also sold pictures of his sister naked to the press.

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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2014, 01:24:PM »
Hi curiousessex  Of course I can be wrong ABOUT Jeremy Bamber being innocent it is just an opinion and to me his conviction was unsafe due to many many reasons and he should be allowed to appeal that decision.  If after a retrial I am convinced of his guilt no I do not thing he should be given parole and allowed to walk free just like many others who have murdered their children by starving them to death just walk free after serving a handful of years.  IMO the Judicial system is crazy and people take a life and walk free after serving half of their sentence i.e. they serve 8 or 10 years. IMO the Jeremy Bamber case is now so political it is not going to go away till Justice is served.

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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2014, 01:25:PM »
cant beleive he tried to sell naked photos of his sister to the press just days after she was killed.

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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2014, 01:26:PM »
BDave  Jeremy Bamber did not sell pictures of Sheila to the press.