The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[susan]

Adam I suggested to you yesterday that Jeremy had no intention of shooting rabbits (you don't hear rabbits unless you are a cat) he wanted out of the kitchen as a young man would find the strained atmosphere quite uncomfortable and would not wish to be present when they were discussing fostering.  But it fell on deaf ears by the sound of it.

[Alias]

I just said it was testified in court.

By whom?

[Adam]

Why is it SO hard for you to accept that some MAY lie under oath and some won't. I imagine Jeremy's description of his relationship with June was entirely accurate. I think, good woman though she undoubtedly was, she was also a very difficult woman to have a comfortable, easy relationship with. Colin was reluctant to leave his boys in her care because of it.

Yes, Julie, Mary & the pathologist lied.

Jeremy of course did not lie.

[maggie]

She said I spread lies. 

15/20, who cares  ? Either way Jeremy would be stuck on his tractor a long time. He did not sit on his tractor much after the murders. Preferring to live it up.

Not even look right. What is that supposed to mean ?

I meant you repeat myths and lies, I didn't call you a liar, you tell us you believe they are truths so please can you tell us where you have read or heard these facts you state as truths, St Adam.

[Adam]

By whom?

Read my recent posts.

Mary Mugford. Who is of course lying. Under oath.

[Jane]

Yes, Julie, Mary & the pathologist lied.

Jeremy of course did not lie.

But if YOU are to be believed it's the other way round, isn't it?

[Adam]

I meant you repeat myths and lies, I didn't call you a liar, you tell us you believe they are truths so please can you tell us where you have read or heard these facts you state as truths, St Adam.

So everything I say I have to say where I read it.

Why should I ? No one else does.

[maggie]

Yes, Julie, Mary & the pathologist lied.

Jeremy of course did not lie.

Exactly April even though we know Julie was a liar and a thief and a fraudster. How shameful.

[Adam]

But if YOU are to be believed it's the other way round, isn't it?

Mugford, EP, Mary Mugford, the pathologist, relatives, the courts, appeal courts.

They are all lying.

[Alias]

Read my recent posts.

Mary Mugford. Who is of course lying. Under oath.

Did she say that Jeremy hadn´t talked to June for a couple of years?

[Jane]

So everything I say I have to say where I read it.

Why should I ? No one else does.

I feel certain that you're capable of more intelligent response the "Why should I" and POSSIBLY the reason others don't is because they don't just pull bits from books to throw around.

[susan]

Adam you said Jeremy tried to look concerned you said he tried to look sad you said he tried to look calm and what I said whatever way he looked was not right by you.  Who said you spread lies certainly not me that is one word I never never use,  What made the relatives think immediately after the shootings at WHF that Jeremy had murdered his family and stop copying my words. The reason I posted up about you quoted 15 years then 20 years you are making it up as you go on and getting things wrong.  Try harder.

[Adam]

Exactly April even though we know Julie was a liar and a thief and a fraudster. How shameful.

Jeremy was a thief. Robbing the caravan park.

Mugford was the one who told the police about the caravan park.

The jury believed Mugford.

[maggie]

So everything I say I have to say where I read it.

Why should I ? No one else does.

I and no doubt others would be interested to hear where you read it as many of us haven't heard it before. Most of what is posted on the forum comes from docs, statements etc. on the forum or from books.
Where did you read it am curious, we all have an open mind Adam

[Jane]

Mugford, EP, Mary Mugford, the pathologist, relatives, the courts, appeal courts.

They are all lying.

You may achieve more by clarifying your own words rather than trying to twist other peoples.