The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Alias]

I am just going by what was testified in court.

That he had said he hated his parents. A lot of people say they hate their parents and don´t go on to kill them. It doesn´t prove a thing.

[Adam]

I imagine it far more likely that having worked a 14 hr day it was more convenient for him to eat with his parents that go home and cook for himself. Routine changes at harvest. Routine changes when there are visitors. Had you realized it was also Sheila's first visit to the farm in almost a year?

Jeremy had already seen his 'nutter' sister & the twins earlier in the day. He resented the twins. Doubt he was desparate to see them in the evening. Or Neville & June for that matter. 

[Adam]

That he had said he hated his parents. A lot of people say they hate their parents and don´t go on to kill them. It doesn´t prove a thing.

Nine year olds say it when told off.

Never met any adults who said it.

[Alias]

Jeremy had already seen his 'nutter' sister & the twins earlier in the day. He resented the twins. Doubt he was desparate to see them in the evening. Or Neville & June for that matter.

OH GOSH, the man must have been something so very simple as HUNGRY and TIRED after many hours of work. This is getting silly!

[Alias]

Nine year olds say it when told off.

Never met any adults who said it.

I have - I am one of them actually, and my sisters.

[maggie]

Again, let's ask Jeremy if the conversation took place.

Not sure there were too many suppers. It was testified in court that Jeremy hated his parents. He had not spoken to June for years. He also told the police Sheila is a nutter & he didn't like her. Barbara Wilson said he had confessed to the caravan robbery, spending most of the money recently.
But that night Jeremy had to have supper at WHF. It would help him deflect attention to Sheila.

Adam have never heard the Jrremy hadn't spoken to June for years. As far as I remember Brett went to WHF with Jeremy to meet June and Neville, Julie used to sometimes read the twins bedtime stories, think you've been dreaming.

[Jane]

OH GOSH, the man must have been something so very simple as HUNGRY and TIRED after many hours of work. This is getting silly!

No, probably more interested in getting fed. Reasonable, wouldn't you think, after a long day?

[Jane]

Nine year olds say it when told off.

Never met any adults who said it.

I'd have sold my soul to have had someone I could say those words to.

[Alias]

No, probably more interested in getting fed. Reasonable, wouldn't you think, after a long day?

Every single move, every single word Jeremy did or said is turned and twisted into something sinister - even having supper! 

[Adam]

Adam have never heard the Jrremy hadn't spoken to June for years. As far as I remember Brett went to WHF with Jeremy to meet June and Neville, Julie used to sometimes read the twins bedtime stories, think you've been dreaming.

Julies mother Mary Mugford testified this in court. As previously said.

Jeremy called Mary 'mummy' & offered her Junes car after the deaths. Jeremy told Mary that June was thinking of changing her will to give the twins more.

[Jane]

Every single move, every single word Jeremy did or said is turned and twisted into something sinister - even having supper! 

Yes Alias, I'm picking that up, AND where there are none obvious, the bottom of the barrel is getting well and truly scraped :D :D :D

[maggie]

No, probably more interested in getting fed. Reasonable, wouldn't you think, after a long day?

Adam is just making stuff up imo Jeremy spent Christmas day with his parents, June lent him her bike for goodness sake, surely he must have asked her if he could borrow it.
Adam you are another guilter who just spreads myths and lies.

[Adam]

Adam is just making stuff up imo Jeremy spent Christmas day with his parents, June lent him her bike for goodness sake, surely he must have asked her if he could borrow it.
Adam you are another guilter who just spreads myths and lies.

Can you not call me a lier please.

I am going by what I have read from various sources. Such as Jeremy not speaking to June for years.

No I was not dreaming. It was testified in court as just mentioned.

[maggie]

I'd have sold my soul to have had someone I could say those words to.

Oh! April xxxxx ((((((((HUGS))))))))) xxxx

[Jane]

Julies mother Mary Mugford testified this in court. As previously said.

Jeremy called Mary 'mummy' & offered her Junes car after the deaths. Jeremy told Mary that June was thinking of changing her will to give the twins more.

Adam dear, shall we look at that from another direction. Mary SAID Jeremy told her. If we return to your seemingly churlish dismissal of seeing grandchildren because of worry over mental state, MOST parents would lie through their teeth to protect their children. I VERY much doubt that Mary would have wished to see her daughter branded a liar and no one could prove, like much else said by Mugfords, what was actually said, because there, conveniently, was usually no one else there to verify it.