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Offline Adam

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #900 on: December 10, 2013, 07:11:PM »
Not sure what the defintion of a psycopath is.

Is it someone who continually murders ? If it is then Jeremy is not one.

If Jeremy did commit the crime, it was simply for money, staus & power. Things he did not have but craved. The five people were in the way & removable in a way where he could avoid blame. The fact that he did not like or respect these people made it easier.

Once he had what he wanted, there would be no need or urge for any more murders.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #901 on: December 10, 2013, 07:12:PM »
This quote HMEssex.


It's best to source a quote, so we know where you are coming from, either from this forum or elsewhere.

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« Reply #902 on: December 10, 2013, 07:16:PM »
HMEssex  Ha Ha Ha   ;D ;D ;D ;D  Think they may have been if she had a liaison with a certain Mr. Plod ;D  What a thought ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #903 on: December 10, 2013, 07:16:PM »
Not sure what the defintion of a psycopath is.

Is it someone who continually murders ? If it is then Jeremy is not one.

If Jeremy did commit the crime, it was simply for money, staus & power. Things he did not have but craved. The five people were in the way & removable in a way where he could avoid blame. The fact that he did not like or respect these people made it easier.

Once he had what he wanted, there would be no need or urge for any more murders.


Psychopathy is a personality disorder and as such is incurable. Whether caused by nature or nurture, the argument goes on and the jury is still out.

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« Reply #904 on: December 10, 2013, 07:17:PM »
Adam I don't think that paragraph was interesting think it is just speculation by steve uk which he is very good at.  June and Ralph Bamber were not old and who said June was going to change her will Julie's Mother where did she get this information from Julie of course.  So you think Jeremy is protesting his innocence because he thinks we are inferior to him.  You need to get back on track with your research this stuff will take you nowhere, ;D

Mary Mugford told the court under oath that Jeremy told her.
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« Reply #905 on: December 10, 2013, 07:18:PM »
Mary Mugford told the court under oath that Jeremy told her.



SO?!!!!!!!

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« Reply #906 on: December 10, 2013, 07:19:PM »
Adam  think Jeremy was quite well off for a guy of 24.  Own house, car shares in caravan park he would have some say on the running of the farm and Ralph had bought a small farm for him.  His salary would be all his as he had no bills to pay at all think he was well satisfied with his lot.

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #907 on: December 10, 2013, 07:20:PM »
Not sure what the defintion of a psycopath is.

Is it someone who continually murders ? If it is then Jeremy is not one.

If Jeremy did commit the crime, it was simply for money, staus & power. Things he did not have but craved. The five people were in the way & removable in a way where he could avoid blame. The fact that he did not like or respect these people made it easier.

Once he had what he wanted, there would be no need or urge for any more murders.


Jeremy has been tested 20-odd times, and he is NOT a psychopath.  He also PASSED a lie detector test. Now if he had failed, everyone would be jumping on that fact to say he was guilty.

He had everything, home, secure future running farm, shares in Osea camping site etc.  Nobody was in HIS way.  Or so he thought.

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« Reply #908 on: December 10, 2013, 07:22:PM »
Exactly april SO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #909 on: December 10, 2013, 07:27:PM »
They were both 61. In the 1980's people were living shorter lives.

However it is possible they could have lived another 20 years. Eating away at any potential inheritance. Sheila & the twins were not going anywhere but would have inherited as much as Jeremy. Despite never putting in 14 hour shifts on the farm
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #910 on: December 10, 2013, 07:37:PM »
Adam are you aware that Grannie Speakman was a very wealthy lady and old and fragile and Jeremy would have inherited quite a nice sum of money from her.  Why risk going to prison he had money coming his way,

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« Reply #911 on: December 10, 2013, 07:43:PM »
Plus it would have been easier to have " got rid of one elderly and frail " old lady,than five people. Jeremy loved his grannie too,so nobody would have suspected anything because of her poor health too.

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« Reply #912 on: December 10, 2013, 07:44:PM »
Adam are you listening loud and clear ;D

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #913 on: December 10, 2013, 09:24:PM »
Adam  think Jeremy was quite well off for a guy of 24.  Own house, car shares in caravan park he would have some say on the running of the farm and Ralph had bought a small farm for him.  His salary would be all his as he had no bills to pay at all think he was well satisfied with his lot.

He was. But still had to work long days at the farm, for a labourer's wage. Perhaps for another 15 years. Something he hated doing. Even then he would he have to share any will with Sheila & the twins. Maybe get even less than the twins if June amended her will.

Thought he had to pay his bills but had free petrol.
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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #914 on: December 10, 2013, 09:28:PM »

Jeremy has been tested 20-odd times, and he is NOT a psychopath.  He also PASSED a lie detector test. Now if he had failed, everyone would be jumping on that fact to say he was guilty.

He had everything, home, secure future running farm, shares in Osea camping site etc.  Nobody was in HIS way.  Or so he thought.
Exactly. I wonder why these people will not believe the obvious? Instead go and make up silly senarios and project their own fantasies onto him.
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