The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Adam]

Was Sheila experienced enough with guns to re load quickly. Twice ? Where were the other cartridges ? Where was Neville & June when this was being done ?

[lookout]

Hi Looky, okay and you can't say - okay been here before!

When can the forum get to know what (no doubt in my mind) will be another piece of straw clutched at!

Its not a photo of Sheila on the bed is it!! 

Not sure what it is,Nickos,,other than a hunch it's about one of the " five " silencers,possibly. Also that Sheila herself was not shot with the silencer attached. As I said,,I don't really know except that I'd imagine that there's emphasis on there not being a silencer in situ. We'll have to wait and see.

[Nickos]

Not so Nick. You and I do not count among that few. You have reached your position by examining the evidence. As have I. But even you must admit that there are those on the guilty side who seem to be stuck in the same groove for ever. You know those who just will not examine the evidence but would contradict everything just so they can prove their scenario to be the right one. Sadly I find that position to be more amongst the "guilty party" than I do the innocence party?

I will admit that there are those on both sides stuck in the same groove

Adam may have, and I'm sure has, reached his thoughts based on weighing up both sides.

It's always interesting when having given ones point of view (as I have over a few years now), that a new poster questions and challenges one line of thought, to that which appears to tally with my line of thought.

 

[lookout]

I will admit that there are those on both sides stuck in the same groove

Adam may have, and I'm sure has, reached his thoughts based on weighing up both sides.

It's always interesting when having given ones point of view (as I have over a few years now), that a new poster questions and challenges one line of thought, to that which appears to tally with my line of thought.

Nickos,,I think ALL our thoughts tallied first off until some of us began to realise that all wasn't well,,then we set off questioning Jeremys' insistance that he was innocent. It's what you believe,,or choose to in this case,,though it shouldn't be that way,as he either did,or he didn't,,and even that conclusion isn't right either if it was in a court of law.
Whichever way it's looked at,,it was an unfair trial in anyones books.

[susan]

Hello Nickos  you may have failed to notice I am back this was necessary as I saw you filling my shoes very quickly leaving  for HMEssex.  But I still love youxxx

[Nickos]

Not sure what it is,Nickos,,other than a hunch it's about one of the " five " silencers,possibly. Also that Sheila herself was not shot with the silencer attached. As I said,,I don't really know except that I'd imagine that there's emphasis on there not being a silencer in situ. We'll have to wait and see.

These silencers are breeding 

However, this brings to mind the scenario (I believe supported by some) where the first shot to Sheilas throat was with a silencer on, and the second without - confusing isn't it 
 

[Adam]

So Adam. What do you think about the police records of one man and one woman? One dead female, "one dead male on entry". "Three more dead upstairs." "One murder and one suicide" etc? Do you think they made three mistakes?

Well, yes.

As said someone who looked through the window said 'one female in the kitchen' (Neville).

Upon entering it was reported there was one male in the kitchen (Neville).

A written report from someone not at the scene says 'one female & one male in the kitchen'. Jeremy jumped on this several years later.


The thought that Sheila was in the kitchen, still alive. Then got up, walked upstairs without being seen, then shot herself without being heard is darkly comical. Or perhaps she was seen & heard & everyone is lying to frame Jeremy ?

[Nickos]

Hello Nickos  you may have failed to notice I am back this was necessary as I saw you filling my shoes very quickly leaving  for HMEssex.  But I still love youxxx

Hi McG, I felt let down when you just reappeared without telling me 

Its all those avatars displayed by the girls - your all gorgeous - how fickle am I    xx

Where's your thistle gone!

[susan]

Nickos I reappeared for another as my heart is lost to him now but still have room for you too I will share you,

[susan]

My dear Nickos my thistle went up in smoke along with my 8200 posts.  Will have a Yorkshire Rose now when Roch will do it for me Maybe put my picture up but that would mean you would be up in Scotland before your planned holiday

[Adam]

Adam

which member of EP have you spoken to that repeated the story that Jeremy hated Crispy.  Jeremy was in no position to look after Crispy the dog would have been left home alone whilst Jeremy was busy running the farm.  Crispy was not a working dog like Bruce who was rehomed but rather old and bad tempered and really had reached the end of his life and it would have been cruel for Jeremy to have taken him.  No other family members would take him thought maybe Ann would have liked him as a pet but sadly no (not Jeremy Crispy).

As I said. Read Wilke's book.

[susan]

Sorry Adam missed that post.  My apologies.

[Adam]

This was the first thread I created after joining this board.

I thought why not start from the beginning, when the first shots were fired by either Jeremy or Sheila ?

Foget about the apparent millions of pieces of paper on the case, or apparent new evidence which has been hidden,  looking for a technical way to get the conviction overturned, which has so far failed. Let us work out how either of them went about their business in the house.

Not boasting but it was easy for me to create a Jeremy scenario which matched the crime scene & bullet allocation. The whole process may have only taken 5 - 10 minutes in the house.  People commented on this laughing at my wetsuit claim. Which I do not mind.  But disappointingly there has only been one other scenario, for Sheila.

I appreciate it is hard creating a believable scenario for Sheila. She had to re load twice & Neville needed at least 5 minutes to make two phone calls. Neville was also brutally beaten.  However lots of people believe Jeremy is innocent. So surely there must be lots of believable scernarios.

So get typing !

[susan]

Adam the police forensically tested the wet suit.

[Adam]

Adam the police forensically tested the wet suit.

Looking forward to you're scenario.