Neglect and the Effect on Developing Brains of Babies/Small Children

[killingeve]

To be super-human is dependent on the genetic make-up of a person. There are lots of people who would " ride out the storm ". Strength of character counts for a lot.Jeremy is a prime example.

I believe strength of character is both genetic and environmental - a complex combination of the two. 

Although both SC and JB suffered the initial trauma of separation from their birth mothers and ongoing trauma  of growing up without 'genetic mirroring', only SC suffered further trauma as a result of abrupt and multiple changes in primary caregivers and potential neglect in the run up to June's mental illness in 1959.

[Patti]

I believe strength of character is both genetic and environmental - a complex combination of the two. 

Although both SC and JB suffered the initial trauma of separation from their birth mothers and ongoing trauma  of growing up without 'genetic mirroring', only SC suffered further trauma as a result of abrupt and multiple changes in primary caregivers and potential neglect in the run up to June's mental illness in 1959.

Hi NN

I think there is some trauma of separation at birth.   If you look at animals/mammals any pup leaving its birth mother frets and pines.  We always put a clock under the pillow of our pups to mimic the sound of the mother heartbeat.  I doubt humans are any different....

Take whales as an example....they know their young and the young knows them....its nature and no one can change that....

[lookout]

I believe strength of character is both genetic and environmental - a complex combination of the two. 

Although both SC and JB suffered the initial trauma of separation from their birth mothers and ongoing trauma  of growing up without 'genetic mirroring', only SC suffered further trauma as a result of abrupt and multiple changes in primary caregivers and potential neglect in the run up to June's mental illness in 1959.

Is this the girl versus boy " syndrome ",as boys by their very nature act in a macho manner and tend to have that protective cloak around them,,whereas girls,known to be the weaker sex look for support.?

[killingeve]

Is this the girl versus boy " syndrome ",as boys by their very nature act in a macho manner and tend to have that protective cloak around them,,whereas girls,known to be the weaker sex look for support.?

No I don't believe so.  Had JB have suffered multiple and abrupt changes in primary caregivers and the potential for neglect  we may well have seen evidence of disruptive behaviour at school,  anti-social behaviour, violent conduct etc but as we know there's no evidence of this from JB.

[lookout]

No I don't believe so.  Had JB have suffered multiple and abrupt changes in primary caregivers and the potential for neglect  we may well have seen evidence of disruptive behaviour at school,  anti-social behaviour, violent conduct etc but as we know there's no evidence of this from JB.

So Jeremy definitely was the " macho " character,,enabling things to go over his head,,rather than them to sit in a corner of his brain,festering,,as poor Sheila did.

[killingeve]

So Jeremy definitely was the " macho " character,,enabling things to go over his head,,rather than them to sit in a corner of his brain,festering,,as poor Sheila did.

I obviously don't know JB personally but from everything I've read in the public domain and my letter contact with him I wouldn't describe JB as "macho".  As I said JB was not at such a disadvantage as SC as he did not suffer multiple and abrupt changes in primary caregivers and the potential for neglect.

It would appear that with JB's birth father being an army sergeant/major and promoted to a senior position within the Buck palace household that be was somewhat of a strong character.  This is one of the reasons Patti and myself are keen to identify SC's birth father ie to build up a complete picture in terms of family background, character type, mental illness etc

[Jane]

So Jeremy definitely was the " macho " character,,enabling things to go over his head,,rather than them to sit in a corner of his brain,festering,,as poor Sheila did.

For what it's worth, research shows that heavy cannabis use increases the risk of psychosis by up to 700%................and children who suffer neglect are more likely to use illegal substances.

[lookout]

I obviously don't know JB personally but from everything I've read in the public domain and my letter contact with him I wouldn't describe JB as "macho".  As I said JB was not at such a disadvantage as SC as he did not suffer multiple and abrupt changes in primary caregivers and the potential for neglect.

It would appear that with JB's birth father being an army sergeant/major and promoted to a senior position within the Buck palace household that be was somewhat of a strong character.  This is one of the reasons Patti and myself are keen to identify SC's birth father ie to build up a complete picture in terms of family background, character type, mental illness etc

I'd plump for " blue blood ",NN. You know yourself the amount of Royalty going back years who've produced a " sick " child. Years of inter-breeding,etc.

[killingeve]

Hi NN

I think there is some trauma of separation at birth.   If you look at animals/mammals any pup leaving its birth mother frets and pines.  We always put a clock under the pillow of our pups to mimic the sound of the mother heartbeat.  I doubt humans are any different....

Take whales as an example....they know their young and the young knows them....its nature and no one can change that....

Hi Patti

Yes I agree.  I hadn't really thought of the above until my brother and his family got a dog a few years ago and my brother commented on the dog crying as she missed her mother  .

[killingeve]

Hi NN, How's it going dude 

Some interesting stuff on YouTube re early brain development.  The 'still face' experiment is cool. Think this is where it's at ie all those abrupt changes in early primary caregivers and June's mental illness had a catastrophic effect on SC.  Jury should have been made aware of this for sure.  Hey listen up man what's the score with Dr F?  I mean do you think that guy was arse covering or just plain dumb?  Sure things have moved on but attachment and loss have been around pre WHF and ffs man it was a UK psychologist that coined the term 'genealogical bewilderment' and this was well publicised in all the trade mags.  Can we be certain that she was a schizophrenic and was the medication doing more harm than good?  Have you called for back up yet?

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaauaEEjPm7NRsK34sAb7aLsNRmNwMBrY

What's occurring on the forum?  KCL still doing your head in?

Send us a moby pic of your booty   

 

[killingeve]

Oh I forgot yeah back up hopefully on its way.  Spent some time last night on this should be ready to roll by month end. 

[killingeve]

Arrrgh who has removed my 'still face' experiment 

Bet it was the Green Goddess 

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzXGEbZht0

It shows the detrimental effect June's depression is likely to have had on poor little SC 

Also see page 2, para 3

 http://psychcentral.com/lib/depressed-parents-and-the-effects-on-their-children/000464

[lookout]

Blame it on the Amygdala.!

[Patti]

Arrrgh who has removed my 'still face' experiment 

Bet it was the Green Goddess 

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzXGEbZht0

It shows the detrimental effect June's depression is likely to have had on poor little SC 

Also see page 2, para 3

 http://psychcentral.com/lib/depressed-parents-and-the-effects-on-their-children/000464

Take a look at Ceausescu's children.  I do agree that if children aren't stimulated they may fall behind in education.  Not sure if that is the right thing to say. 

June and Nevilles children were bright and I am sure they loved them both......I'm not sure whether none stimulation can result in schizophrenia or even psychopathy. 

[killingeve]

Take a look at Ceausescu's children.  I do agree that if children aren't stimulated they may fall behind in education.  Not sure if that is the right thing to say. 

June and Nevilles children were bright and I am sure they loved them both......I'm not sure whether none stimulation can result in schizophrenia or even psychopathy. 

Hi Patti

It is definitely not a case of non-stimulation.  It is case of neglect and lack of responsiveness from June to SC due to June's depression and lead up to her admittance to St Andrews. Have you been reading my posts re 'serve and return' and changes in brain architecture?   Patti trust me I studied psychology at degree level in the 80's.