telephone calls

[wilf]

I have several questions I hope someone can help with. In the log of the call from Jeremy it seems straightforward sender JB, receiver 1990, exchange line, at we are told the local pilice station. Who or what is 1990? Is this PC West?
In Ralphs call made earlier the log is on a different type of form and lists sender as 1990 and receiver as MB Malcolm Bonnet exchange line is listed. It is reasonable to assume that Ralph would have dialed 999 which is not highlighted. So who did Ralph speak to where were they located? If 1990 took both calls he/she would clearly link them they being within ten minutes. Is there a missing log of a 999 call sent by Ralph? Is there a record of an emergency call at BT exchange?

Im sorry if this is going over old ground but Im just trying to get things straight in my head.


wilf

[Patti]

Hi Wilf

1990 is the collar number for West.....Not sure if the records at BT were fully investigated to be fair.  There is a BT account on whether there were day calls or evening calls....It appears this was done by a meter. I must admit to thinking that the because there was a roll out for itemised calls, they did have the technology, but lacked enthusiasm in trying to trace the calls down....

[lookout]

On the 5th of August 2010,,new evidence had revealed a logged police call from Neville before the murders took place.

[Steve_uk]

I think Jeremy may have been worried that BT might have been able to prove that he made a telephone call from White House to Goldhanger and that nobody picked up(the answerphone message would be activated),so he made a call to Julie first upon return to Bourtree Cottage and then telephoned Witham,where he either hung up after one or two rings or didn't telephone them at all,and only at that stage did he telephone Chelmsford Police Station. At no stage did he dial 999 which he was worried if he did they might have been able to trace the preceding call,and it also gave him time to clean himself up(this has been called the "Radox" moment thoughI've forgotten who mentioned it)whilst he was pretending to flick through Yellow Pages for the Chelmsford number.

[susan]

steve are you now telling me Jeremy shot his family then went home and had a soak in Radox what a strange thing to do. 

[Steve_uk]

steve are you now telling me Jeremy shot his family then went home and had a soak in Radox what a strange thing to do.

No somebody else suggested it.I can't remember the thread now. It may have been in response to my "freedom,freedom..the rusted tractor" but I don't recall where it is now. I do hope it's recorded for posterity.

[susan]

steve I too hope it has been recorded for posterity I would feel happier about it.

[Caroline R]

I think Jeremy may have been worried that BT might have been able to prove that he made a telephone call from White House to Goldhanger and that nobody picked up(the answerphone message would be activated),so he made a call to Julie first upon return to Bourtree Cottage and then telephoned Witham,where he either hung up after one or two rings or didn't telephone them at all,and only at that stage did he telephone Chelmsford Police Station. At no stage did he dial 999 which he was worried if he did they might have been able to trace the preceding call,and it also gave him time to clean himself up(this has been called the "Radox" moment thoughI've forgotten who mentioned it)whilst he was pretending to flick through Yellow Pages for the Chelmsford number.

This doesn't make sense Steve - how would they be able to trace the preceding call? And why wouldn't he just dial 999? If he's murdered everyone and wanted to come over as the concerned son - why wouldn't he have simply dialled 999?

[susan]

Caroline behave yourself and stop asking awkward questions about phone calls

[Caroline R]

Caroline behave yourself and stop asking awkward questions about phone calls

I just don't understand where Steve gets his theories from. Wet suits, watches under rugs and tractor canopies. I don't think Sherlock has much need to worry 

[Steve_uk]

This doesn't make sense Steve - how would they be able to trace the preceding call? And why wouldn't he just dial 999? If he's murdered everyone and wanted to come over as the concerned son - why wouldn't he have simply dialled 999?

Because he needed time to clean himself up. Remember there were specks of blood on clothing found in his wardrobe weeks after the murders. Jeremy didn't know whether a telephone call to the Police might have recorded digitally and also been able to pick up the preceding call,which I suspect was just Jeremy telephoning his answerphone from White House. That's why Jeremy also made a call to Julie first. Of course he never spoke to Nevill at all that night,or rather Nevill never tried to make contact with Jeremy via the telephone.

[Jane]

No somebody else suggested it.I can't remember the thread now. It may have been in response to my "freedom,freedom..the rusted tractor" but I don't recall where it is now. I do hope it's recorded for posterity.

Egoistic, narcissistic, arrogant. Who do I know who fits that bill? Can't imagine I know ANYBODY like that.

[Caroline R]

Because he needed time to clean himself up. Remember there were specks of blood on clothing found in his wardrobe weeks after the murders. Jeremy didn't know whether a telephone call to the Police might have recorded digitally and also been able to pick up the preceding call,which I suspect was just Jeremy telephoning his answerphone from White House. That's why Jeremy also made a call to Julie first. Of course he never spoke to Nevill at all that night,or rather Nevill never tried to make contact with Jeremy via the telephone.

The specks of blood were in no way linked to the murders and you know it!! Why on earth would he think a preceding call would be picked up during another call?? No one would think that!! And I don't see what you're getting at by stating "That's why Jeremy also made a call to Julie first" is there meant to be some obvious reason? He could have cleaned himself up and then dialled 999. Most of what you have just said is completely out of your own imagination.

[Steve_uk]

The specks of blood were in no way linked to the murders and you know it!! Why on earth would he think a preceding call would be picked up during another call?? No one would think that!! And I don't see what you're getting at by stating "That's why Jeremy also made a call to Julie first" is there meant to be some obvious reason? He could have cleaned himself up and then dialled 999. Most of what you have just said is completely out of your own imagination.

No Caroline there's a gap of 20 minutes which Jeremy has to explain(it happened in the David Bain case too). He stated he had flicked through Yellow Pages trying to find the Chelmsford Police Station number when any rational person faced with an emergency such as that would have immediately dialled 999,as would Nevill in reality.

[lookout]

Steve,,have you ever emulated your father.? This is what Jeremy was doing when he didn't ring 999 in case it was a false alarm that he didn't want to trouble the police unnecessarily.