telephone calls

[Jane]

He called Julie for moral support. I think he was going to tell her he'd done it and initially said:"All is going well..",then realizing that Julie was on a shared phone he comes out with "something is wrong at the Farm". All wicked and completely cynical.

But we only have Julie's version of what he said during those calls, just like the was never anyone present when he supposedly made all those comments to RWB.

[Caroline R]

steve and what did Julie say to him get back to your bed she must have been really worried he had murdered his family he had told her earlier according to you tonights the night.

And lets not forget "It's now or never"  :D

[Jane]

And lets no forget "It's now or never"  :D

"Oh sole mio"

[Steve_uk]

But we only have Julie's version of what he said during those calls, just like the was never anyone present when he supposedly made all those comments to RWB.

The most important thing to my mind was that there were witnesses when the call was received.

[Caroline R]

"Oh sole mio"

Just one Cornetto 

[Jane]

The most important thing to my mind was that there were witnesses when the call was received.

As he never denied making the calls, it hardly matters, and unless they were crowded around the phone listening to the conversation, they couldn't possibly have heard what he said, and Julie telling him to go to bed because she was going to, would have told them nothing.

[Steve_uk]

As he never denied making the calls, it hardly matters, and unless they were crowded around the phone listening to the conversation, they couldn't possibly have heard what he said, and Julie telling him to go to bed because she was going to, would have told them nothing.

Funny that Julie was so important to him at that stage of his plan,he made a beeline for her at Bourtree Cottage the first moment he was able,then dumped her unceremoniously as soon as he had DCI Taff Jones fooled.

[Jane]

Funny that Julie was so important to him at that stage of his plan,he made a beeline for her at Bourtree Cottage the first moment he was able,then dumped her unceremoniously as soon as he had DCI Taff Jones fooled.

Not at all funny/strange/unusual/suspicious/extraordinary if one is seeing it from a position of his innocence.

[maggie]

Funny that Julie was so important to him at that stage of his plan,he made a beeline for her at Bourtree Cottage the first moment he was able,then dumped her unceremoniously as soon as he had DCI Taff Jones fooled.

Have been out for a couple of hours, have just read the forum ....... haven't had such a good laugh in ages, bloody hilarious thank you you all 

[Caroline R]

Funny that Julie was so important to him at that stage of his plan,he made a beeline for her at Bourtree Cottage the first moment he was able,then dumped her unceremoniously as soon as he had DCI Taff Jones fooled.

The act of dumping someone who knows you murdered 5 people is unlikely - especially as it was only weeks after the murders. However, the act of seeking revenge after being dumped - is highly likely!!

[maggie]

The act of dumping someone who knows you murdered 5 people is unlikely - especially as it was only weeks after the murders. However, the act of seeking revenge after being dumped - is highly likely!!

The claim that Jeremy Bamber was capable of murder but soooo stupid that he dumped Julie after telling her he did it is beyond any reasonable persons belief.  He would have kept her close and maybe, if he was crazy enough to murder his family the way it's claimed he did then he would have got rid of her (killed her) at a later date. 
We all know the saying, 'keep your friend close and your enemies closer'.
The behaviour of Julie is typical of a hurt and angry immature young woman who maybe had issues of her own after being deserted by her father at a young age?

[Steve_uk]

The claim that Jeremy Bamber was capable of murder but soooo stupid that he dumped Julie after telling her he did it is beyond any reasonable persons belief.  He would have kept her close and maybe, if he was crazy enough to murder his family the way it's claimed he did then he would have got rid of her (killed her) at a later date. 
We all know the saying, 'keep your friend close and your enemies closer'.
The behaviour of Julie is typical of a hurt and angry immature young woman who maybe had issues of her own after being deserted by her father at a young age?

He could only think of Angi Greaves at that moment on the other end of a telephone line. He didn't really dump her,just was two-timing her. He would have set her up in a London wine bar and as memories of the murders faded things would from Jeremy's standpoint have got back to normal.

[Lugg]

Hi Wilf

1990 is the collar number for West.....Not sure if the records at BT were fully investigated to be fair.  There is a BT account on whether there were day calls or evening calls....It appears this was done by a meter. I must admit to thinking that the because there was a roll out for itemised calls, they did have the technology, but lacked enthusiasm in trying to trace the calls down....

The must have had the technology. Otherwise they could not bill anyone for every call made. So at the very least they could tell how many calls were made that night. So why was this not fully investigated?

[Lugg]

I just don't understand where Steve gets his theories from. Wet suits, watches under rugs and tractor canopies. I don't think Sherlock has much need to worry 

Books.

[Lugg]

Because he needed time to clean himself up. Remember there were specks of blood on clothing found in his wardrobe weeks after the murders. Jeremy didn't know whether a telephone call to the Police might have recorded digitally and also been able to pick up the preceding call,which I suspect was just Jeremy telephoning his answerphone from White House. That's why Jeremy also made a call to Julie first. Of course he never spoke to Nevill at all that night,or rather Nevill never tried to make contact with Jeremy via the telephone.

So why weren't these "specks of blood" tested and presented at the trial? Possibly because they didn't exist?