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« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2013, 08:55:PM »


It may have escaped your notice, but not ONE of the afore mentioned knew Jeremy for the length of time the prison authorities have known him. Everyone connected to the trial would have had an agenda of some sort, on a scale of 1 to 10, ranging from 1 to off the scale...............and DO stop your constant whinging about the amount of money his parents spent on him. It's all relative according to the level of income but it's what parents do.
I think money was the motive for this crime,it was the motive for the Simon Hall crime and many others which have officially become miscarriages of justice. We know Jeremy snooped around the safe because Nevill told Barbara Wilson to hide the key,so Jeremy was privy to the wealth his parents possessed. And of course there was always that lurking,latent feeling with Jeremy that they weren't his biological parents which made them dispensable,and as he contemplated the situation of an evening at Bourtree Cottage he realized that Sheila and the twins would also have to be removed because then it would make things so much tidier..

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« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2013, 09:01:PM »
I think money was the motive for this crime,it was the motive for the Simon Hall crime and many others which have officially become miscarriages of justice. We know Jeremy snooped around the safe because Nevill told Barbara Wilson to hide the key,so Jeremy was privy to the wealth his parents possessed. And of course there was always that lurking,latent feeling with Jeremy that they weren't his biological parents which made them dispensable,and as he contemplated the situation of an evening at Bourtree Cottage he realized that Sheila and the twins would also have to be removed because then it would make things so much tidier..

Give it a rest - you are guessing here (well, most of the time you are guessing). I just think this is uncalled for. There are no statistics that show that adopted children are more likely to kill their parents than biological children.
I find this a tad offensive.

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« Reply #77 on: August 08, 2013, 09:02:PM »
I think money was the motive for this crime,it was the motive for the Simon Hall crime and many others which have officially become miscarriages of justice. We know Jeremy snooped around the safe because Nevill told Barbara Wilson to hide the key,so Jeremy was privy to the wealth his parents possessed. And of course there was always that lurking,latent feeling with Jeremy that they weren't his biological parents which made them dispensable,and as he contemplated the situation of an evening at Bourtree Cottage he realized that Sheila and the twins would also have to be removed because then it would make things so much tidier..


And you obviously can't see the irony here that money was the motivation behind the wider family wanting Jeremy convicted. That there had always been that lurking latent feeling that as Jeremy wasn't biologically related, and was the only one standing between them and family money, he was dispensable.

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« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2013, 09:14:PM »
I think money was the motive for this crime,it was the motive for the Simon Hall crime and many others which have officially become miscarriages of justice. We know Jeremy snooped around the safe because Nevill told Barbara Wilson to hide the key,so Jeremy was privy to the wealth his parents possessed. And of course there was always that lurking,latent feeling with Jeremy that they weren't his biological parents which made them dispensable,and as he contemplated the situation of an evening at Bourtree Cottage he realized that Sheila and the twins would also have to be removed because then it would make things so much tidier..
If it's correct that Neville did hide the key to the safe, it was never said it was Jeremy he was hiding it from or why he was hiding it.  It struck me at the time of reading that it wasn't very well hidden.  If there was any real danger and need for real secrecy I am sure they could have found a better hiding place than his secretary's drawer, I think that's where they put it.

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« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2013, 09:15:PM »

And you obviously can't see the irony here that money was the motivation behind the wider family wanting Jeremy convicted. That there had always been that lurking latent feeling that as Jeremy wasn't biologically related, and was the only one standing between them and family money, he was dispensable.
But June made it clear to Ann Eaton in what the latter took to be a slight put-down that the family's concerns were hers alone and not for outsiders. Ann Eaton would not have expected any inheritance whatsoever from Nevill and June and it's wrong of you to imply that she did.

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« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2013, 09:26:PM »
But June made it clear to Ann Eaton in what the latter took to be a slight put-down that the family's concerns were hers alone and not for outsiders. Ann Eaton would not have expected any inheritance whatsoever from Nevill and June and it's wrong of you to imply that she did.
You have no facts to back that up.  How do you know Ann Eaton didn't hope for an inheritance?

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« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2013, 09:31:PM »
But June made it clear to Ann Eaton in what the latter took to be a slight put-down that the family's concerns were hers alone and not for outsiders. Ann Eaton would not have expected any inheritance whatsoever from Nevill and June and it's wrong of you to imply that she did.



Because I'm aware that you're NOT thick, I can only assume that either you deliberately CHOOSE to misinterpret what I say OR your mindset is skewed. Nevill and June were childless for 10 years prior to adopting Sheila, during which time the thought can't have escaped RWB that should they remain childless, HIS children would be next in line for inheritance. The adoption of a daughter wasn't paramount but the adoption of a BOY was, especially as HE already had a son born of farming family stock, but Nevill's son would take precedence over him. You're correct in thinking that AE wasn't expecting to inherit, but I wonder how many times she's been told that she WOULD have done, but for "those two." Which MAY be where the "cuckoo in the nest" originated.

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« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2013, 09:32:PM »
You have no facts to back that up.  How do you know Ann Eaton didn't hope for an inheritance?
Because she would inherit from  her father Robert and her mother Pamela,who was also in line for half of her mother Mabel Speakman's estate along with June.

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« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2013, 09:34:PM »


Because I'm aware that you're NOT thick, I can only assume that either you deliberately CHOOSE to misinterpret what I say OR your mindset is skewed. Nevill and June were childless for 10 years prior to adopting Sheila, during which time the thought can't have escaped RWB that should they remain childless, HIS children would be next in line for inheritance. The adoption of a daughter wasn't paramount but the adoption of a BOY was, especially as HE already had a son born of farming family stock, but Nevill's son would take precedence over him. You're correct in thinking that AE wasn't expecting to inherit, but I wonder how many times she's been told that she WOULD have done, but for "those two." Which MAY be where the "cuckoo in the nest" originated.
Now who's engaging in speculation. But you did remind me that June's primary motivation in adopting was a child and not an heir and son to the Farm,and look how she was repaid.

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« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2013, 09:36:PM »
You have no facts to back that up.  How do you know Ann Eaton didn't hope for an inheritance?



Night Maggie, don't let him beat you up ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2013, 09:37:PM »


Night Maggie, don't let him beat you up ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Night lovely April....sleep tight and dontcha dream about susan gooling crocs .... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #86 on: August 08, 2013, 09:39:PM »


Night Maggie, don't let him beat you up ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Night april, seep well  :) :) :)

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« Reply #87 on: August 08, 2013, 09:40:PM »
Because she would inherit from  her father Robert and her mother Pamela,who was also in line for half of her mother Mabel Speakman's estate along with June.

But she did take an interest in Neville's mothers jewellery!! It's not so much that the relatives expected an inheritance from Neville and June's will, it's more about not wanting Jeremy to inherit.

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« Reply #88 on: August 08, 2013, 09:44:PM »
But she did take an interest in Neville's mothers jewellery!! It's not so much that the relatives expected an inheritance from Neville and June's will, it's more about not wanting Jeremy to inherit.
It was one piece Pamela wanted as a keepsake. The rest was taken for safekeeping as the place was uninhabited.
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« Reply #89 on: August 08, 2013, 09:45:PM »
But she did take an interest in Neville's mothers jewellery!! It's not so much that the relatives expected an inheritance from Neville and June's will, it's more about not wanting Jeremy to inherit.
I agree Caroline, I believe they did see the inheritance as their right, it would be more surprising if they didn't in that type of family described by april as a Dynasty.  Whereas Jeremy never thought of his parents as unnatural, his relatives thought of Jeremy as the unnatural heir, it seems. :-\