ECHR ..... now - Killers' life terms 'breached their human rights'

[Caroline R]

I had some sympathy with Jeremy as a child,bullied on the school bus because of his plummy accent,no real friends at public school where he was packed off then bullied again as he confided in someone that he was adopted. If only he had told his parents of his dreams to own a wine bar,an ambition he could have realized with a tenth of the capital Nevill and June had. Sheila remember had been given the option of running an antique shop in the country by June but turned it down. Whatever was going on inside Jeremy's head it was taken for granted by his parents that he would run the farm,and Nevill would naturally wish Jeremy to look smart when he met the trustees. It's just a small area of rebelliousness which led to an evil plan as ultimately Jeremy realized he had the power to take everything and just walk away

Are you suggesting his motive grew out of not wanting to wear tie?  I don't think Jeremy was or is backward in coming forward. I'm sure he made whatever plans he had quite clear but like any 25 year old, life plans change frequently!!

[nugnug]

thse arguments seem a bit strawman to me steve are you a secret bamber supporter.

[susan]

steve if what you are saying his correct surely Jeremy would have blamed his birth parents for him being labelled a bastard not poor Ralph and June who loved him and provided him with the best money could buy.  Had another couple adopted Jeremy other than Ralph and June would he have murdered them do you think.

[Alias]

Maybe to his peers yes,and possibly when girls were admitted. But the authority figures were not to be crossed.

All this is no proof that he killed his family. Most of the things you put up here to paint Jeremy in a bad light could be said about most people.
I don´t know what purpose it serves, really.

[Steve_uk]

No he should never be released,though a Norwegian open prison would be more humane. I was answering points as to Jeremy's clothing,which had I not I would have been accused of evasion.

[susan]

nugnug you have blown steve's cover he is very pro Bamber

[Steve_uk]

steve if what you are saying his correct surely Jeremy would have blamed his birth parents for him being labelled a bastard not poor Ralph and June who loved him and provided him with the best money could buy.  Had another couple adopted Jeremy other than Ralph and June would he have murdered them do you think.

Jeremy went along with it all until he had to knuckle down to serious work on the Farm(remember on return from the Antipodes he obtained employment at a Little Chef..so much for the career farmer). Most people are not mass murderers so no I don't think Jeremy would have murdered other adoptive parents had he not learned a smattering of schizophrenia and realized that if Sheila and the twins were out of the way as well as his parents he would inherit and be rid of the Farm at one and the same time.

[Jane]

Jeremy went along with it all until he had to knuckle down to serious work on the Farm(remember on return from the Antipodes he obtained employment at a Little Chef..so much for the career farmer). Most people are not mass murderers so no I don't think Jeremy would have murdered other adoptive parents had he not learned a smattering of schizophrenia and realized that if Sheila and the twins were out of the way as well as his parents he would inherit and be rid of the Farm at one and the same time.

Steve, I'm hanging on to the belief that despite what you sometimes write, there's an intelligent mind so I'm going to ask you to try to look objectively at what you've just posted. What would YOU think of that post if someone else sent it? How the hell do you think it possible to learn a bit if schizophrenia. She'd been diagnosed for less than a year and they weren't living under the same roof. As for him working in the Little Chef, it shows a work ethic. He COULD have sat around and done nothing. I think you should put more thought into the words you write.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, I'm hanging on to the belief that despite what you sometimes write, there's an intelligent mind so I'm going to ask you to try to look objectively at what you've just posted. What would YOU think of that post if someone else sent it? How the hell do you think it possible to learn a bit if schizophrenia. She'd been diagnosed for less than a year and they weren't living under the same roof. As for him working in the Little Chef, it shows a work ethic. He COULD have sat around and done nothing. I think you should put more thought into the words you write.

I wonder if he ever had the conversation with his parents about his future-I suspect not. Of course blaming Sheila was central to his plan which he put into operation from the moment the Police arrived.

[susan]

Hello april  just thinking is that where he met Julie in the Little Chef.

[nugnug]

so now working in a transport cafe makes you guilty of murder.

[Jane]

So Jeremy went back to his car for a jacket did he? There may be an innocent explanation of course,along with the glossy brochures of luxury cars on the coffee table at Goldhanger. Blood was found in Nevill's car which was never explained. And of course Jeremy drove Police back to Bourtree Cottage in his own vehicle with an air of insouciance once that acting segment charade was over.http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2220.15.html

No Steve. You weren't answering a point about Jeremy's clothes in case you were accused of evasion. You RAISED a (superflous) point about Jeremy's clothes.

[maggie]

Hello april  just thinking is that where he met Julie in the Little Chef.

Hi Susie, just butting in here, no he met Julie at Sloppy Joe's  bad day for Jeremy.

[Jane]

Hello april  just thinking is that where he met Julie in the Little Chef.

Susan, do you mean Steve or Jeremy?

[Alias]

I wonder if he ever had the conversation with his parents about his future-I suspect not. Of course blaming Sheila was central to his plan which he put into operation from the moment the Police arrived.

Then why did he say to them that the raid team had killed his family? That was his first reaction when he learned about their deaths - he said it outside the farmhouse that night?
He would NOT have said that if his plan was as you describe, just NOT! He would not have said it either if in any way he was connected to the killings.