ECHR ..... now - Killers' life terms 'breached their human rights'

[Jane]

Of course Colin was a victim and I don't want to minimize his loss. I was discussing the relatives who were left the key to White House Farm,and it's pretty clear that Jeremy's mind was focused on the material value of the antiques and valuables left behind as he sorted them into piles in front of Ann Eaton,and not the emotional sentiment of his bereavement.

Let's be quite clear on this, Steve. Apart from the fact that everything, lock, stock and barrel, was HIS do do with as he saw fit. It was also his responsibility to ensure that certain payments were on time which would not have benefitted had he given way to emotion, something in any case, he would have been bought up NOT to do.

[maggie]

Let's be quite clear on this, Steve. Apart from the fact that everything, lock, stock and barrel, was HIS do do with as he saw fit. It was also his responsibility to ensure that certain payments were on time which would not have benefitted had he given way to emotion, something in any case, he would have been bought up NOT to do.

Totally agree April. Well said.

[Jane]

Hello campion  steve seems to have been present at many conversations it would seem between the relatives and conversations between Jeremy and Julie quite amazing.

One is almost inclined to feel that Steve put, if not words in their mouths, certainly thoughts in their heads

[susan]

Hello april  who was in June's jewellery box soon after the deaths not Jeremy that is for sure.

[Jane]

Hello april  who was in June's jewellery box soon after the deaths not Jeremy that is for sure.

Exactly so, Susan, and I believe that it's stated somewhere, that within an unseemly few days Ann asked for June's engagement ring for her mother and Jeremy refused, but, as you say, she went through June's jewellery box anyway.

[Caroline R]

Let's be quite clear on this, Steve. Apart from the fact that everything, lock, stock and barrel, was HIS do do with as he saw fit. It was also his responsibility to ensure that certain payments were on time which would not have benefitted had he given way to emotion, something in any case, he would have been bought up NOT to do.

Well said April, I can understand why Jeremy wanted to sort out the valuables from WHF but not why the relatives thought they should have a hand in it? It wasn't their responsibility. You can only imagine that they would be THAT concerned, if they knew they would eventually inherit  and they couldn't have know that?

[lookout]

And these are things that we know of.!!

[Jane]

Well said April, I can understand why Jeremy wanted to sort out the valuables from WHF but not why the relatives thought they should have a hand in it? It wasn't their responsibility. You can only imagine that they would be THAT concerned, if they knew they would eventually inherit  and they couldn't have know that?

Apart from which, Caroline, going through ones parents belongings after they have died can be a very intimate/emotional thing to do and something only someone close could help with. Anything else would feel like a violation.

[nugnug]

its not nearly as strange as ann eaton washing the bloodstained undwear of someone who was dead.

[Jane]

its not nearly as strange as eaton washing the bloodstained undwear of someone who was dead.

Yes, indeed nug, although Steve seems not to consider that as odd, yet every breath that Jeremy takes he sees as pointing to his guilt.

[campion]

No doubt Steve UK will soon be countering these recent posts regarding integrity!

[lookout]

its not nearly as strange as ann eaton washing the bloodstained undwear of someone who was dead.

nugs,,if that wasn't odd,I don't know what was.It was macabre and really bad taste.It would take guts and nerves of steel to do that,,and I still don't know what the purpose of doing it was.
Any normal person wouldn't have done as she did. You do those sort of things for the living if/when you're looking after someone or even if you've tended to someone until their death,,but not the way it was done. More interfering with a crime scene.

[Jane]

nugs,,if that wasn't odd,I don't know what was.It was macabre and really bad taste.It would take guts and nerves of steel to do that,,and I still don't know what the purpose of doing it was.
Any normal person wouldn't have done as she did. You do those sort of things for the living if/when you're looking after someone or even if you've tended to someone until their death,,but not the way it was done. More interfering with a crime scene.

lookout, I SUPPOSE if we're following the line of people acting strangely after  abereavement, we could give her the benefit of the doubt for the action she took. Such a shame that Steve can't extend the same to Jeremy, isn't it.

[lookout]

lookout, I SUPPOSE if we're following the line of people acting strangely after  abereavement, we could give her the benefit of the doubt for the action she took. Such a shame that Steve can't extend the same to Jeremy, isn't it.

Yes,April,,I can understand someone " busying " themselves after a bereavement,but that side of busy wasn't acceptable as it washed away what could/would have been important evidence which would have helped Jeremy. They had no right whatsoever to have removed that from the premises. Why.

[Alias]

lookout, I SUPPOSE if we're following the line of people acting strangely after  abereavement, we could give her the benefit of the doubt for the action she took. Such a shame that Steve can't extend the same to Jeremy, isn't it.

I can´t get over that she took notes of what Jeremy said on the very morning after the murders. She was hugging him and seemingly comforting him on the outside, but behind his back, she immediately went to work to destroy him. Wonder what was going through her mind. Even the EP asked her to tone it down - she took notes of everything! She must have annoyed the heck out of them!
I have a feeling I would not get along with her.