ECHR ..... now - Killers' life terms 'breached their human rights'

[Steve_uk]

Who's palm print is it?

Why does it matter,if Jeremy fetched Sheila in the middle of the night clutching her New English Bible,whereupon a palm print may have been left as she moved her hand up to her neck after being shot by Jeremy the first time.

[Jane]

All of the blood evidence along with the DNA has been discussed ad nauseum, is open to different interpretations and nothing was conclusive. As for the bible it's my opinion it was tossed onto the body by Jeremy after his sister's death to reinforce the "Sheila is a loony schizophrenic" argument which Jeremy reiterated to Police at every opportunity at the outset of this whole affair.

Just as well for you, isn't it then, that the bible was there.

[tyler]

Why does it matter,if Jeremy fetched Sheila in the middle of the night clutching her New English Bible,whereupon a palm print may have been left as she moved her hand up to her neck after being shot by Jeremy the first time.

It was Junes bible.Usually kept on her bedside table.

[Caroline R]

Why does it matter,if Jeremy fetched Sheila in the middle of the night clutching her New English Bible,whereupon a palm print may have been left as she moved her hand up to her neck after being shot by Jeremy the first time.

It wasn't her bible!

[Caroline R]

It was Junes bible.Usually kept on her bedside table.

Snap!!

[maggie]

All of the blood evidence along with the DNA has been discussed ad nauseum, is open to different interpretations and nothing was conclusive. As for the bible it's my opinion it was tossed onto the body by Jeremy after his sister's death to reinforce the "Sheila is a loony schizophrenic" argument which Jeremy reiterated to Police at every opportunity at the outset of this whole affair.

Yes but what about the results of the lab tests done on the bible?  Aren't you even the slightest bit curious about those results never being made public? Do you believe blood can remain red and blobby for 3 days when left exposed to the air? Surely this matters?
Personally I have no idea how the bible got to be lying on Sheila's chest but the blood and fingerprints on it may have given a clue. You dont know how the bible got there your assumption that Jeremy did it and the reasons why are all j6st that .... assumptions imo.

[Caroline R]

At least he;s not trying to argue that it's not a plam print and simply blood from the carpet!! 

[maggie]

At least he;s not trying to argue that it's not a plam print and simply blood from the carpet!! 

.............. yet!!!

[Jane]

.............. You dont know how the bible got there your assumption that Jeremy did it and the reasons why are all j6st that .... assumptions imo.

This follows much of what you attribute to Jeremy. Other than pointing to his greed/hatred/cocaine habit you offer no plausible/valid reason for Jeremy carrying out the things you accuse him of and there is no proof that he was greedy/hate filled/had a cocaine habit.

[mertol22]

Even steve is unable to fill in the events from when jeremy left that night .

[Jane]

Even steve is unable to fill in the events from when jeremy left that night .

No, Mertol, he couldn't but he WOULD come up with something which points to his guilt and justify it by saying it was a balanced probabality.

[mertol22]

No, Mertol, he couldn't but he WOULD come up with something which points to his guilt and justify it by saying it was a balanced probabality.

im sure he would april together with a quote for good measure,ive seen in the papers this week several mentions of jeremy in relation to the ruling and all not in a good light its clear the press are easy enough to be on the side of the public yet when the system fails they are on their knees for the story.

[Caroline R]

im sure he would april together with a quote for good measure,ive seen in the papers this week several mentions of jeremy in relation to the ruling and all not in a good light its clear the press are easy enough to be on the side of the public yet when the system fails they are on their knees for the story.

To be expected Mertol, they helped demonise him in the first place but I think he has a few Guardian reporters on his side!!

[nugnug]

well you can expect nothing more from the press really.

some rentagob tory mps stuck his twopenith in as well witch is to be expected really.

[maggie]

To be expected Mertol, they helped demonise him in the first place but I think he has a few Guardian reporters on his side!!

Yes Caroline, Eric Allison is a huge campaigner for Jeremy and writes for The Guardian and Observer.