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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2013, 10:42:PM »
whoever made the decisn is takeing a big risk with there career.

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2013, 11:32:PM »
i suspect a underworld hit is in the making he will be located hopefully XXXXX and XXXXXX .

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 01:19:AM »
i suspect a underworld hit is in the making he will be located hopefully XXXX and XXXX .
Please don't tell me you are being serious. What kind of society do you wish we live in?! Do you think that personal and collective retribution should take priority over the judicial system?!

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2013, 01:30:AM »
i suspect a underworld hit is in the making he will be located hopefully XXXXX and XXXXXX .


nobody did the last time he was out why would they do it now.

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2013, 11:34:AM »
Please don't tell me you are being serious. What kind of society do you wish we live in?! Do you think that personal and collective retribution should take priority over the judicial system?!

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The kind of society we live in is simple, crime soaring out of control, murders almost daily, no deterrent, other than a jail term for murders what do we do ? 2013 and we still have prisons, are society has no right to exist anymore.

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 11:40:AM »
I think many people will be annoyed because both of James' killers were jailed for a long length of time. yet, one has re-offended and ended up back in prison, so it has neither punished (otherwise he wouldn't want to return) or rehabilitated (otherwise he wouldn't have committed a crime again).

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2013, 12:09:PM »
Hello Joanne obviously rehabilitation has not worked for Venables as he would not have re-offended.I also think we must not forget the victims here the parents of Jamie who will live with the torment of what happened to their baby boy for the rest of their lives :(

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2013, 12:12:PM »
I think many people will be annoyed because both of James' killers were jailed for a long length of time. yet, one has re-offended and ended up back in prison, so it has neither punished (otherwise he wouldn't want to return) or rehabilitated (otherwise he wouldn't have committed a crime again).

Disagree 100% with what you have posted. Imprisonment is about both retribution and rehabilitation. Whether you agree or disagree with the decision of the parole board, Venables and Thompson were locked up and denied their liberty for a period of 8 years from 1993-2001. During this time they were both significantly rehabilitated and for all we know Robert Thompson may have been as fully rehabilitated as possible and will never commit a crime again.

With regards Venables whilst it is very upsetting / worrying that he was convicted of child pornography offences and there are RUMOURS of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, breach of parole conditions; to say that he has not been rehabilitated at all is simply not true.

I am certainly not defending him or his actions but given that when he was released in 2001 some people viewed him as the devil incarnate who was born evil and it was only a matter of time before he would kill again, the fact that he was at liberty for 9 years shows that to a certain degree he was successfully rehabilitated. I'm certainly not defending the crimes he did commit, but the fact (as far as is known) he has not personally abused or murdered again shows an element of rehabilitation.

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2013, 12:12:PM »
its not certan that he actully commited a crime he just had his licence revoked ive heard nothing of him actully being convicted of accused of.

i may have got this wrong but thats how i see it.

does anybody know if he was convicted or not.
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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2013, 12:16:PM »
Hello Joanne obviously rehabilitation has not worked for Venables as he would not have re-offended.I also think we must not forget the victims here the parents of Jamie who will live with the torment of what happened to their baby boy for the rest of their lives :(

There are varying degrees of rehabilitation. It is obvious that he has not been 100% rehabilitated. However to say that rehabilitation has not worked at all for Venables is not true. Nobody on here knows the changes in him his rehabilitation has brought about.

If he has not been rehabilitated at all, why did he not murder again during the 9 years he was at liberty?

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2013, 12:22:PM »
well its worked a bit i mean he hasnt killed agian.

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2013, 12:24:PM »
its not certan that he actully commited a crime he just had his licence revoked ive heard nothing of him actully being convicted of accused of.

i may have got this wrong but thats how i see it.

does anybody know if he was convicted or not.

Yes, he pleaded guilty at court of downloading and distributing child pornography. He was sentenced to 2 years imprisonment.

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2013, 12:37:PM »
petey I don't know why he did not murder again in the 9 years he was free I don't know what satisfaction he got from beating an innocent little 2 year old boy to death and leaving him on the railway line like a piece of garbage.  Maybe now time has moved on with computers etc he gets his thrills in other ways like child pornography and whatever else he may have got upto. Not for one moment am I saying what I think is correct I just try and get my head around a ten year old boy beating the child along with other things and ask myself how can that action  of the brain be changed. I know crimes of passion is a one off but this was deliberately planned and they enticed the wee fella away from his Mother and he in all innocence went with them and would be so frightened and confused and my thoughts are always with Jamie's Mother as she will never recover from that for the rest of her days.  It was such a senseless killing but Venables & Thompson must have gained some pleasure out of doing that.  To this very day I for one find it very upsetting to think of what the wee boy went through.

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Re: Jon Venables to be freed (Again)
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2013, 12:48:PM »
Yes, he pleaded guilty at court of downloading and distributing child pornography. He was sentenced to 2 years imprisonment.

oh yes so he was.

under those circumstances im not sure weather he should of been released.

if i was member of a parole board i certainly wouldn't want to take that risk.