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Hi Susan I doubt any parent is perfect. I thought the world of mine, even though they failed to stay together during my younger life. My parents never fell out in front of me, nor did I see them fight. However I do remember my mother leaving the poker in the fire once to hit my father with, but she didn't use. They always remained sociable and always asked about one another and I know they both loved me very much and were never afraid to show it, I got plenty of hugs and kisses even when I married. I'm just sorry for my own children and feel I failed to provide them with loving parents. I am all my children have. My son and daughter are very close, we all are. But there are times I wish I had a little more help....especially now with my son who wants to go to university....there is no way I could fund him for that...and it hurts....We can only do our best and give what we have to them.
Hi Patti I was brought up very Yorkshire style family always stood together my parents always wanted the best for me but on so many occasions I thought they were wrong but as I reflect they were right. We give our children what we are able and I am sure your children love you for what you have given them a good family life and love that is what counts. Your son can do what mine did work his way up the ladder do an open university course and get his degree. Patti knowing you as I do I suspect you are an excellent Mother and what more could your children wish for than a lovely person as you
Patti, whilst you may THINK that you failed them, your children are likely to view it very differently :D
Patti, how long has your son worked for. If he has worked over 3 years, he'll get a full grant because he's counted as independent of you. haha!!. If he gets a full grant, he'll get a bursary from uni, my daughter got another £1,800 a year. Some vocational courses also give burseries on top but if he only does a few days in college then he can get a job as well. He won't need you to fund him. Maggie I earn too much don't I? I've never been able to get owt for free....I think you are right about bursaries....We will have to look into it again. His contract finishes in August. He is desperately looking for full time work. At the moment her only wks 18 hrs per wk.....
My I.T skills are poor and if anyone can reproduce the photograph on #56 in the thread below please do so. It shows a 16 year-old Jeremy in 1977 who at this stage seems to me to have got over his forced removal from home to Gresham's and is relieved to be back home. We have to ask ourselves just what happened in the intervening period of years leading up to the Autumn of 1984 when it's my belief he was planning to burn down the White House when he thought the whole family would be present over the Christmas period.It's so often the case that it's the quiet boys who when they snap can turn out to be the deadliest. Maybe they overcompensate for some perceived loss of manhood or helplessness which Jeremy may have suffered after failing his O Levels,his own self-confidence returning upon acquiring some qualifications in the Sixth Form yet not fully restored when again he fails his A Levels. During this time of course we have June's illness in 1982 and Sheila's developing schizophrenia,which destabilizes Jeremy just at a time when most boys have grown out of their rebellious phase and make an incremental transition into adulthood.Is this insecurity and the growing realization that he cannot possibly live up to his parents' expectations of settling down to a life on the farm the reason why Jeremy requites with a violence so terrible in its proportions?http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4030.45.html
Is this the one you mean?
I'm interested in what happened between the date of the picture,which we can all agree was in Summer 1977 and we'd probably all agree at that stage that Jeremy did not have murder in mind,and the Winter of 1984 when I would say he very definitely did. It's fairly obvious to me that Jeremy's loathing of his family started with the onset of his sister's illness followed by June's incarceration at St. Andrew's during which time Jeremy had gained a number of qualifications and had sown some of his wild oats in the Antipodes. But he realized what was expected of him on the Farm and became apprehensive that he could never live up to his parents' expectations.
It's a lovely photograph. I note that Jeremy got in the middle of Colin and his sister....shows how close they were.
With respect Steve, why is this obvious to you. There is absolutely no supporting evidence of your belief. To believe Jeremy changed into a raging psychopath between 1977 and August 1985 I would have to be totally, unequivocally determined he was definitely 100% guilty. I do not believe he is, therefore I cannot answer your question.
Don't you notice a change in Jeremy's demeanour with that fixed,stolid stare at camera after his arrest? I have not said he is a psychopath and will have to check april1's assertion that it's synonymous with a sociopath. But I do see the resolute,determined intent in Jeremy's face in later photos.
