Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?

[Caroline R]

You are speculating which is your right,but Jeremy could have left the crime scene any way he wanted it which puts an air of doubt into your arguments. As far as I know the wetsuit was never tested for gun residue,and I don't know whether a good scrubbing in the shower would remove traces of it once the wetsuit was removed and several layers of new clothing worn.

Speculating on what? I can see blood on her hand and I KNOW that is a hand print on the bible (whether you think so or not). It can't be Jeremy's because it WOULD have been used against him - where is the speculation? Or  are you saying you can't see the blood on the ball of her thumb?

[Roch]

Speculating on what? I can see blood on her hand and I KNOW that is a hand print on the bible (whether you think so or not). It can't be Jeremy's because it WOULD have been used against him - where is the speculation? Or  are you saying you can't see the blood on the ball of her thumb?

Hear Hear!

[tyler]

Same with the bloodied hand print mark on Sheila's nightdress. WHERE was her hand resting when she was found? It couldn't have been on the rifle as depicted in the photographs as two members of the raid team CANNOT recall seeing a rifle on her body when they first saw her and yet another stated that the rifle was by her SIDE!

[Lugg]

Same with the bloodied hand print mark on Sheila's nightdress. WHERE was her hand resting when she was found? It couldn't have been on the rifle as depicted in the photographs as two members of the raid team CANNOT recall seeing a rifle on her body when they first saw her and yet another stated that the rifle was by her SIDE!

Personally I don't think the pathologists statement told the entire truth. Why do I say that? Because this photo tells me so. He said her hands were not bloodied. But this photo shows otherwise. Those streaks of blood on her arm come from somewhere. They don't just begin and end where they are.

[lookout]

Because this is an MOJ,,isn't Jeremy at liberty to get an interview with the press/media,,or would the relatives kick up a stink again. ? Everyone else had their say,,so wouldn't it be better " straight from the horses' mouth " to the world, hearing Jeremys' side,instead of the whole thing having been based on speculation.? He's not even allowed a voice,,it's disgusting.
What better to see a live interview by the man himself,to give the public more of an insight,rather than the one-sided reporting that has existed.?

[maggie]

Because this is an MOJ,,isn't Jeremy at liberty to get an interview with the press/media,,or would the relatives kick up a stink again. ? Everyone else had their say,,so wouldn't it be better " straight from the horses' mouth " to the world, hearing Jeremys' side,instead of the whole thing having been based on speculation.? He's not even allowed a voice,,it's disgusting.
What better to see a live interview by the man himself,to give the public more of an insight,rather than the one-sided reporting that has existed.?

Hi tyler, isn't Jeremy trying to get permission for such an interview? Seem to remember hearing that about a year ago but haven't heard any more. Can't imagine him getting permission unless they find a loophole to force the issue. Imagine the interest that would generate with the public.

[lookout]

Hi tyler, isn't Jeremy trying to get permission for such an interview? Seem to remember hearing that about a year ago but haven't heard any more. Can't imagine him getting permission unless they find a loophole to force the issue. Imagine the interest that would generate with the public.

Hi Maggie,,come to think of it,,I too remember Jeremy preparing himself for an interview,,silly me.
However,,if the relatives got wind of it,they'd put the blockers on it,,and because there hasn't been any more mention of it,,that's probably what's happened. What's it got to do with them anyway.? They've more than had their say,,let Jeremy give his side and let the public decide. Can't be fairer than that.

[maggie]

Hi Maggie,,come to think of it,,I too remember Jeremy preparing himself for an interview,,silly me.
However,,if the relatives got wind of it,they'd put the blockers on it,,and because there hasn't been any more mention of it,,that's probably what's happened. What's it got to do with them anyway.? They've more than had their say,,let Jeremy give his side and let the public decide. Can't be fairer than that.

Think its a bit like the lie detector lookout, it took years to get permission for that, cant imagine them ever allowing an interview but its worth a try I suppose.

[campion]

Hi, personally I cannot agree with Lugg's opinion that the Pathologist told the ENTIRE truth. Not only him, but the ENTIRE motley crew of the officers present at the CONTRIVED Crime Scene, in the Master Bedroom,  at WHF uwere lying. I do feel there is significance that The Pathologist was NOT 'invited to the Crime Scene'.
Whose idea was it to contrive the situation which required the placing of the bloodied Bible adjacent to Sheila's arm?Presumably this scenario was set to create a photographic record that Sheila was not of sound mind.
So, whose bloodied palm print was made on the Opened Bible?
So, why were there no records of type of blood, or hand print marks?
It begs the question as to whether one of those present, when Sheila was accidentally, and actually shot dead by the bullet in the breech of the rifle (which hadn't been checked out), was responsible for their blood being on the open pages of the Bible.
Who might that officer have been? I fear Steve was not privy to this contrived evidence.

[lookout]

Another 12 months on from the tragedy would have seen the breakthrough of DNA testing,which would have had it solved overnight.
I often wonder if it had been Jeremy who " found " that silencer in the cupboard,that people would have accused him of having a vested interest,,,but look who did " find " it. Did they have a vested interest also. You bet. Did the court know.? Questionable.

[Lugg]

Hi, personally I cannot agree with Lugg's opinion that the Pathologist told the ENTIRE truth. Not only him, but the ENTIRE motley crew of the officers present at the CONTRIVED Crime Scene, in the Master Bedroom,  at WHF uwere lying. I do feel there is significance that The Pathologist was NOT 'invited to the Crime Scene'.
Whose idea was it to contrive the situation which required the placing of the bloodied Bible adjacent to Sheila's arm?Presumably this scenario was set to create a photographic record that Sheila was not of sound mind.
So, whose bloodied palm print was made on the Opened Bible?
So, why were there no records of type of blood, or hand print marks?
It begs the question as to whether one of those present, when Sheila was accidentally, and actually shot dead by the bullet in the breech of the rifle (which hadn't been checked out), was responsible for their blood being on the open pages of the Bible.
Who might that officer have been? I fear Steve was not privy to this contrived evidence.

I said that the pathologist DIDN'T tell the whole truth campion.

[Patti]

Another 12 months on from the tragedy would have seen the breakthrough of DNA testing,which would have had it solved overnight.
I often wonder if it had been Jeremy who " found " that silencer in the cupboard,that people would have accused him of having a vested interest,,,but look who did " find " it. Did they have a vested interest also. You bet. Did the court know.? Questionable.

Not sure about that Lookout, I thought the DNA breakthrough came in the 90's not long after the gross misconduct of destroying  the evidence in 1996. Although I do believe DNA was around  and  some tests which were being done prior to that, but no idea what....Webster left his position just after 1985/6 to work with DNA...so it was around, but I don't think the breakthrough of DNA profiling came till later...or the LCN DNA....I'll have a google lol 

[campion]

Will you please refer back to you Post #468.

[Lugg]

Will you please refer back to you Post #468.

This is what I said

Personally I don't think the pathologists statement told the entire truth.

[lookout]

That first shot that Sheila had in the neck,,,from what distance does anyone think it occurred.? Is it recorded at all.?