Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?

[mike tesko]

Hi Mike, I thought the New English Blue bible was June's particular bible although all the bibles were no doubt Junes. You have said in the past there was a black bible kept in the spare room which was Sheila's room during her visit and the other two black bibles were kept downstairs. Could the black bible with the palm print be the one from the spare room?

Hi Maggie,

Yes, the missing black covered bible handed back to relatives could be the one which has  - imagine the consequences if Sheila's bloodied part palm print upon its pages, which are linked to the bloodied fingermarks on Sheila's nightdress - imagine the consequences and implications, if it turns out that relatives have the missing black bible, contaminated with Sheila's bloodied palm print upon it, when the defence have not seen head nor tail of it?

We need to idenyify the contents and layout of the page containing this bloodied palm print, and link it to a particilar bible...

Blue or black?

[Jane]

Hi Maggie,

Yes, the missing black covered bible handed back to relatives could be the one which has  - imagine the consequences if Sheila's bloodied part palm print upon its pages, which are linked to the bloodied fingermarks on Sheila's nightdress - imagine the consequences and implications, if it turns out that relatives have the missing black bible, contaminated with Sheila's bloodied palm print upon it, when the defence have not seen head nor tail of it?

We need to idenyify the contents and layout of the page containing this bloodied palm print, and link it to a particilar bible...

Blue or black?

Mike, I'm slightly concerned that said bible, should it be requested, will have mysteriously disappeared/been destroyed years ago because of painful memories. Too much information, perhaps?

[mike tesko]

When was photograph of bloodied palm print on page taken, and who by...

[maggie]

When was photograph of bloodied palm print on page taken, and who by...

That's an interesting question Mike, do you have any idea? 
Do we know which black bible we are speaking of or is that impossible to know?

[killingeve]

Hi Mike, I thought the New English Blue bible was June's particular bible although all the bibles were no doubt Junes. You have said in the past there was a black bible kept in the spare room which was Sheila's room during her visit and the other two black bibles were kept downstairs. Could the black bible with the palm print be the one from the spare room?

Hi Maggie

Wow didn't realise they had so many bibles at WHF!  Thanks for the info as I've often wondered if Sheila went to her parents' room to get the bible hence the location of her body but perhaps not if other bibles were available.  Do you think Sheila knew about the one in her room or even the others elsewhere?  Were all these bibles the same in terms of text and just different publishers? 

I wonder when/if Sheila discovered that her maternal Grandfather was a Prof of Theology and a former canon at Canterbury and if so how this played out?  Also wonder if June started preaching Sheila may have brought this up and used it in many ways which June may have taken offence to ie could have sparked something?  Perhaps Sheila only found out about her Grandfather when she met her birth mother a few weeks before the murders?  Also think Sheila's birth father was a curate but not sure as in theologian sense or looking after a museum? 

[mike tesko]

That's an interesting question Mike, do you have any idea? 
Do we know which black bible we are speaking of or is that impossible to know?

House cleaner identifies missing black covered bible...

[maggie]

Hi NN I believe the blue bible was the New English Translation which is translated into modern prose but would imagine the other 3 were King James translaion......one was very old I think.
As for Sheila I would agree she probably didnt know about her ancestry including her dad who would prob have been connected to the church...think curators are the museum guys.  Would think her natural motber must have told her. Considering her problems with religion who knows how this affected Sheila's troubled mind?   :D

[Jane]

Maggie, I've read here somewhere that Sheila's biological uncle/great uncle was vicar of St Luke's in Tiptree, within spitting distance of D'Arcy.

[maggie]

Maggie, I've read here somewhere that Sheila's biological uncle/great uncle was vicar of St Luke's in Tiptree, within spitting distance of D'Arcy.

yes you're right April. There were connections with D'Arcy and the church. Possibly why she went to June and Neville?  Wonder if Sheila was always naturally attracted to religion which became compounded by June's later obsession and her own illness? Although many schizophrenics seem to see devils and demons and other unworldly stuff?

[killingeve]

Maggie, I've read here somewhere that Sheila's biological uncle/great uncle was vicar of St Luke's in Tiptree, within spitting distance of D'Arcy.

April, I recall HMEssex, a local poster, posting up about SC having an uncle living in Tiptree but I didn't realise he was a vicar. 

[Caroline R]

I am not yet convinced that the part bloodied hand print on the page of the bible, was made on the page of the blue covered bible, photographed alongside Sheila's body, by PC Bird after 10 O'clock that morning - there were four bibles kept at, and in use at whf, but only three have been accounted for...

For almost 28 years, June Bambers, black covered bible, the black has remained withheld, and unaccounted for, leading to a suspicion that  the crucial bloodied palm print was actually found on a page of the black covered bible, belonginmg to June Bamber...

Hi Mike, Tyler has the same bible and the pages correspond exactly, that being the case, I am convinced that the stain is from the blue bible.

[Steve_uk]

House cleaner identifies missing black covered bible...

That's interesting,as the black covered bibke would have been June's King James' version. Now I wonder if Jeremy threw it into the Aga..

[Caroline R]

That's interesting,as the black covered bibke would have been June's King James' version. Now I wonder if Jeremy threw it into the Aga..

Errrr for what reason?

[Roch]

Yes, in his COLP interview, PS Adams mentions that he and other officers were talking after the raid, and they thought at some stage before the shootings had started, that June and Sheila had been laid on the bed reading bibles...

If Sheila was the shooter, this scenario could indicate a potential catalyst to the incident?

[mike tesko]

Paranormal image of bloodied part hand print provides a clue to who was responsible for making this mark upon the open page of this particular bible...