Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?

[Patti]

Thanks Patti  . Yes, it was given back to the family. I'm sure they could request it and may have done - hopefully, it still exists or there are higher res pictures f it. 

How could forensics have overlooked it?? Such a lot does not make any sense! If it is Sheila's hand, then that would confirm there was blood on her hand and the swabs that were  taken and prjected in court fails...because they said the swabs were clean and if this palmprint is Sheila's then that argument flies out of the window....and proves that facts that were produced as facts in court were incorrect. 

[maggie]

How could forensics have overlooked it?? Such a lost does not make any sense! If it Sheila's hand, then that would confirm there was blood on her hand and the swabs that were taken and produced in court fails...because they said the swabs were clean and if this palmprint is Sheila's then that argument flies out of the window....and proves that facts that were produced as facts in court were incorrect. 

I member you arguing that they washed Sheila's hands before they swabbed Patti...d'you remember? I would agree with you on that.  I forgot to get my Scott Lomax book back again today 

[Patti]

I member you arguing that they washed Sheila's hands before they swabbed Patti...d'you remember? I would agree with you on that.

Maggie it is feasible that the swabs were taken after washing. The mere fact that no ones can verify this one way or another means that the evidence itself fails in my opinion, because facts can't be fully established.  What I mean is that the first swabs were rejected and no one can establish whether or not more swabs were taken or were they taken after washing down...or were they the same swabs re-submitted....There is no evidence to support they were the same swabs that were rejected....the mind boggles...lol 

[maggie]

Maggie it is feasible that the swabs were taken after washing. The mere fact that no ones can verify this one way or another means that the evidence itself fails in my opinion, because facts can't be fully established.  What I mean is that the first swabs were rejected and no one can establish whether or not more swabs were taken or were they taken after washing down...or were they the same swabs re-submitted....There is no evidence to support they were the same swabs that were rejected....the mind boggles...lol 

I know, I agree and I do think Scott Lomax made a good point about the swabbing of the hands but I still haven't got my book back!!!

[Patti]

I know, I agree and I do think Scott Lomax made a good point about the swabbing of the hands but I still haven't got my book back!!!

Maggie I haven't found mine either. I know it is here somewhere, but its not on the bookcase. I meant to look for it for you. Sorry! 

[maggie]

Maggie I haven't found mine either. I know it is here somewhere, but its not on the bookcase. I meant to look for it for you. Sorry! 

It's my own fault Patti, keep forgetting to pick it up.

[mike tesko]

Looks identical, in my opinion...

[maggie]

Looks identical, in my opinion...

It's uncanny Mike, never would have expected it to be so similar.

[Patti]

It's uncanny Mike, never would have expected it to be so similar.

I'll be getting the paints out when my granddaughter comes over.....

[mertol22]

ive always held the view the most likely cause fits, on the one hand mike raises a fair question but given the methods of events on that morning i do feel this among other incidents sadly may fall into simple investigative errors .

[packagebuilder]

Have the police test the palm print to see who it is??? blood on sheila's dress... yes her hands were bloodstained!! before the police cleaned them.

[mike tesko]

I am not yet convinced that the part bloodied hand print on the page of the bible, was made on the page of the blue covered bible, photographed alongside Sheila's body, by PC Bird after 10 O'clock that morning - there were four bibles kept at, and in use at whf, but only three have been accounted for...

For almost 28 years, June Bambers, black covered bible, the black has remained withheld, and unaccounted for, leading to a suspicion that  the crucial bloodied palm print was actually found on a page of the black covered bible, belonginmg to June Bamber...

[mertol22]

its possible mike juns and sheila were reading the bible that night the times may have varied .

[mike tesko]

its possible mike juns and sheila were reading the bible that night the times may have varied .

Yes, in his COLP interview, PS Adams mentions that he and other officers were talking after the raid, and they thought at some stage before the shootings had started, that June and Sheila had been laid on the bed reading bibles...

[maggie]

I am not yet convinced that the part bloodied hand print on the page of the bible, was made on the page of the blue covered bible, photographed alongside Sheila's body, by PC Bird after 10 O'clock that morning - there were four bibles kept at, and in use at whf, but only three have been accounted for...
For almost 28 years, June Bambers, black covered bible, the black has remained withheld, and unaccounted for, leading to a suspicion that  the crucial bloodied palm print was actually found on a page of the black covered bible, belonginmg to June Bamber...

Hi Mike, I thought the New English Blue bible was June's particular bible although all the bibles were no doubt Junes. You have said in the past there was a black bible kept in the spare room which was Sheila's room during her visit and the other two black bibles were kept downstairs. Could the black bible with the palm print be the one from the spare room?