Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?

[Caroline R]

So you're a palm print expert already?

No, but I know how big those paperback bibles usually are and the stain only fills the top corner. I used a foolscap book and my hands are pretty small. I'd say the two (stains) were of a similar size unless the bible turns out to be humongous!! 

I often agree with you, I just don't tell you

Good thing I don't tell you either!!     

[Bridget]

No, but I know how big those paperback bibles usually are and the stain only fills the top corner. I used a foolscap book and my hands are pretty small. I'd say the two (stains) were of a similar size unless the bible turns out to be humongous!! 

The print could also be June's...

[Caroline R]

The print could also be June's...

It could indeed.  I still find it almost unbelievable that no one has realised that the stain on the bible could  not have come from the stain on the carpet because it's on the wrong side of the page when the bible is faced down. Anyone giving it serious consideration would surely see that? As such, I am forced to believe someone did realise, but didn't say anything because there it is, written in the COA  findings.

[mike tesko]

If it turns out to be the case, that bloodied palm print impression on page of bible, and bloody fingermark impressions are from the same blooded right hand, it cannot possibly be from June or Ralph, or Jeremy, or any hired hitman, because in the photograph of Sheila on the bed there is no bloodied fingermarks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, no gun, no bible. Which means if both parts of the bloodied hand impression belong together, the bloodied hand responsible could only have been Sheila's, not Junes, or Ralphs - police knew who's bloodied hand caused these bloodied part hand impressions on bible page, and nightdress...

[mike tesko]

I have very recently been told by an informant, that it might be suggested that in the photo' of Sheila on the bed, it is not possible to see the bloodied fingermark impressions on the nightdress being worn by Sheila when her body was laid on the bed, because the hem of her nightdress had ridden up high and because of the position of her hand in those shots...

[mike tesko]

It should be possible for experts acting in Jeremys interests to be able to reproduce a similar bloodied impression on the page of a duplice bible, and linen nightdress, and for those representing him, to make a high court application (writ of habeas corpus) requesting that Essex police hand over all the withheld material related to this matter that is currently withheld under pii...

[mike tesko]

What needs to be done, as a matter of urgency, is to obtain expert opinion concerning the liklihood of these two bloodied hand impressions, one on the page of the bible, and the other on the nightdress,  were bot made from the same blood soaked hand...

[mike tesko]

Lets make a start and list things which now need to be done:-

(1) - check for lab' records and any documentation which identifies blood type or group found on nightdress, in particular, blood group evidence pertaining to the bloodied fingermarks on the nightdress, and the bloodied part palm print on the page of the bible...

[mike tesko]

Lets make a start and list things which now need to be done:-

(1) - check for lab' records and any documentation which identifies blood type or group found on nightdress, in particular, blood group evidence pertaining to the bloodied fingermarks on the nightdress, and the bloodied part palm print on the page of the bible...

I believe I have read somewhere in the file, that only Sheila's blood was found on her nightdress - if this turns out to be true, then there can be no doubt at all that at one time or another at the scene during the incident Sheila had blood on her hand(s)...

[Alias]

I agree that this is indeed a significant find, and I cannot praise Caroline enough for finding!
I have a question however. The bible was lying on a stain or pool of blood on the carpet beside Sheila´s body. Mustn´t that stain have dried since there is no mark of it on the bible (or very little)?
On one hand that proves that the bible was placed there a good while after Sheila died by someone (police - they were the only ones there to do it), on the other, that Sheila had died a while back (hours) before she was found and the bible for some obscure reason was placed on top of that stain.

[lookout]

That is Sheilas' bloodied hand on the nightdress,,as it's pointing downwards as if wiping.

[lookout]

What sort of a person takes a swab of someones' hand/s after they've been cleaned.? D'oh.!
Of course it's going to wipe away evidence of blood and lead.
 Vanezis statement was a classic in that he'd said that there was blood " on at least one of her hands ".How many hands did he think the girl had.?

[Caroline R]

I agree that this is indeed a significant find, and I cannot praise Caroline enough for finding!
I have a question however. The bible was lying on a stain or pool of blood on the carpet beside Sheila´s body. Mustn´t that stain have dried since there is no mark of it on the bible (or very little)?
On one hand that proves that the bible was placed there a good while after Sheila died by someone (police - they were the only ones there to do it), on the other, that Sheila had died a while back (hours) before she was found and the bible for some obscure reason was placed on top of that stain.

We don't know who's blood stain is on the carpet or even how big it is. Also, on some of the pictures the bible is resting against her arm and so would be lifted from the carpet stain and further, the note is also underneath and perhaps this helped to protect the page. I don't think anyone knows anything about the note that was found - does it still exist and if so, is there any staining?

[susan]

Hello Caroline   very well done you clever girl the things you turn up are amazing and you are a tremendous asset to this forum xx

[Caroline R]

Hello Caroline   very well done you clever girl the things you turn up are amazing and you are a tremendous asset to this forum xx

Awwww!! Thanks Susan - as are you!!