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Offline Patti

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Re: "All People Are Bad And Should Be Killed"
« Reply #675 on: May 23, 2013, 09:24:PM »

Perhaps it was just cathartic Patti and he felt so much better having written it that he no longer felt the need to send it OR perhaps he thought he may have been a bit heavy handed OR maybe he just chickened out. I imagine he was never less that a little intimidated by the Bamber clan.

mmmmm Yet he saved it? Perhaps it was just in case he changed his mind eh? Sometimes we write things...When my mum died, I was told by someone to write to her, because it might make me feel better....so I can understand that.... :( :) :) :)

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« Reply #676 on: May 23, 2013, 09:29:PM »

Perhaps it was just cathartic Patti and he felt so much better having written it that he no longer felt the need to send it OR perhaps he thought he may have been a bit heavy handed OR maybe he just chickened out. I imagine he was never less that a little intimidated by the Bamber clan.

Hi April

You may recall from CC's book that he and SC discussed her treatment and both felt it was inappropriate and needed changing although he doesn't expand on this.  In any event it had been agreed between the pair that CC would discus this with NB and June when dropping SC and the twins off at WHF but it didn't happen.  Afterwards he said he felt guilty for letting her down by not doing what he said he was going to do.

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Re: "All People Are Bad And Should Be Killed"
« Reply #677 on: May 23, 2013, 11:05:PM »
I must admit,I have fantasised many a time about killing my mother.

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« Reply #678 on: May 23, 2013, 11:09:PM »
I must admit,I have fantasised many a time about killing my mother.
I must admit, I have never ever done that but I did quite often say I hated her when I was young, mainly because I couldn't have my own way. ;D ;D ;D ;D  I always felt guilty cos I didn't really hate her but it was a status thing.

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« Reply #679 on: May 23, 2013, 11:38:PM »


Daniel, in 1985 I was convinced of Jeremy's guilt. I was also convinced that he had buried what he's done. As you pointed out a psychopath wouldn't have done this because they would not have felt the need and, as you say there are differences between those of us who bury what we can't cope with and psychopaths. After all this time in prison, had he just buried his crime, I think the mask would have slipped, much in the way as soldiers who fought during the war and never revealed the horrors they witnessed. Many of these men, now in their 90s are experiencing unspeakable nightmares. What they believed had been successfully buried is clawing it's way out. I am totally convinced that had he buried it, by now he would be experiencing, if not flashbacks, perhaps a moments recall of the pleading in his parents' eyes or something they may have said. It may cause him to catch his breath, or forget what he is saying, or cause him to be far away. It will surely have been revealed during one of the many tests that he's been subjected to.
What many tests are these april1?

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« Reply #680 on: May 23, 2013, 11:47:PM »
What many tests are these april1?
Keep up Steve. Read back and you will see what tests.

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« Reply #681 on: May 23, 2013, 11:59:PM »
 
Keep up Steve. Read back and you will see what tests.
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« Reply #682 on: May 24, 2013, 12:02:AM »
Alias I often thought, if indeed Ralph Bamber uttered the words "I must never turn my back on that young man" he was referring to the fact that Jeremy's birth Father had turned his back on him he certainly did not mean he was afraid he was going to kill him he would have taken some action had he seriously thought that.
That would have been a possible interpretation of Nevill's remarks had he not also said "the shooting season's coming up..accidents do happen" and to Ann Eaton "if he buys that 12 bore shotgun we'll all have to look out."

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« Reply #683 on: May 24, 2013, 12:10:AM »
That would have been a possible interpretation of Nevill's remarks had he not also said "the shooting season's coming up..accidents do happen" and to Ann Eaton "if he buys that 12 bore shotgun we'll all have to look out."
oh steve for goodness sake those words taken totally out of context mean nothing. Neville Bamber was  not a stupid man he would never have  allowed Jeremy near his guns if he feared for his or anyone elses life from Jeremy.

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« Reply #684 on: May 24, 2013, 12:13:AM »
No only is that untrue but there is no evidence of him having worn a wet suit either. It was simply something that RB thought might be a 'possibility'!!
I have dusted down my copy of Blood Relations and quote verbatim from Chapter 32:

The crown's bloodstain expert John Hayward..said that when he examined some of Jeremy Bamber's clothing several weeks after the killings he had found spots of blood on the sleeve of one of his jackets and also on a bathrobe. Blood was also found on the passenger seat of Bamber's car. Although he'd carried out tests Mr. Hayward said he was only able to establish that the blood on the clothing was human.


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« Reply #685 on: May 24, 2013, 12:15:AM »
oh steve for goodness sake those words taken totally out of context mean nothing. Neville Bamber was  not a stupid man he would never have  allowed Jeremy near his guns if he feared for his or anyone elses life from Jeremy.
But then again,how many parents take their children's malice so seriously that they believe their life to be in danger?

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« Reply #686 on: May 24, 2013, 12:22:AM »
But then again,how many parents take their children's malice so seriously that they believe their life to be in danger?
It depends Steve imo.  There were a lot of guns to hand in WHF.  I would have thought Neville would have at the least taken a little more care if he truly suspected Jeremy to be a threat.

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« Reply #687 on: May 24, 2013, 12:25:AM »
It depends Steve imo.  There were a lot of guns to hand in WHF.  I would have thought Neville would have at the least taken a little more care if he truly suspected Jeremy to be a threat.
I really do believe, steve, that the comment about having to 'watch out' if JB bought a 12 bore is a light hearted remark by Neville.

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« Reply #688 on: May 24, 2013, 07:30:AM »
That would have been a possible interpretation of Nevill's remarks had he not also said "the shooting season's coming up..accidents do happen" and to Ann Eaton "if he buys that 12 bore shotgun we'll all have to look out."
Again the word "context" comes to mind. Someone who knows the family said to me that Ann Eaton has a dry sense of humour. Having lived in the area for around 40 years I can tell you that both those sayings sound very much like the Maldon sense of humour. Now you may scoff at this. But they could very well have been joking? But of course that may also be my assumption just as you may be assuming as well. As I said, we need to know the context. But not only that. We also need to know the way it was said. Just as we do the "I can easily kill anybody" remark. I would like to know what kind of conversation those two were having that brought such remarks to mind. I'm sorry Steve, but single sentences do nothing for me unless Shakespeare said them.

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« Reply #689 on: May 24, 2013, 07:30:AM »
I must admit,I have fantasised many a time about killing my mother.
Really?