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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #900 on: May 05, 2013, 02:49:PM »
It was not just the cheque fraud.  It was also burglary, importing drugs, supplying drugs (not a single instance but a course of conduct over an extended period), and the various offences she could have been charged with arising out of the murders.  At the very least this would have been attempting to pervert the course of justice or assisting an offender, at worst it could have been murder itself upon the basis of aiding and abetting Jeremy (both before and after).  This was a major decision for the DPP and Julie was very lucky.  She was in very serious trouble indeed, on any view. The decision was taken because it was felt to be essential to secure Julie's full cooperation and to be in a position to present her in the best possible light to the jury.  This was an unusual course as the normal practice where someone agrees to "turn Queen's evidence" (as it is colloquially termed) is for the witness to be prosecuted but receive a substantial reduction in sentence as a reward for assisting the prosecution.  Julie was not only given immunity but she did not receive a police caution, thus avoiding any criminal record and enabling her to pursue her chosen career.

Yes NGB, Susan Battesby claims in her wit stat that she was present when JM went to the bank to obtain some money bags for JB to enable him to bag up the cannabis ready for JM to distribute. 

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #901 on: May 05, 2013, 03:09:PM »
Yes NGB, Susan Battesby claims in her wit stat that she was present when JM went to the bank to obtain some money bags for JB to enable him to bag up the cannabis ready for JM to distribute.


NaNu Hello. I guess we can establish from that, that she went of her own volition and that Jeremy hadn't in any way threatened her safety or that of her family if she didn't comply with his wishes.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #902 on: May 05, 2013, 03:17:PM »

NaNu Hello. I guess we can establish from that, that she went of her own volition and that Jeremy hadn't in any way threatened her safety or that of her family if she didn't comply with his wishes.

Hello April.  Yes absolutely, in the same way that JM asserted herself with JB over his continuing communication with Suzette Ford which in the end he put a stop to probably due to the relentless pressure.  I think Anji Greaves was probably correct when she stated that JM was quite fond of giving JB what for a lot of the time!

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #903 on: May 05, 2013, 03:25:PM »
Hello April.  Yes absolutely, in the same way that JM asserted herself with JB over his continuing communication with Suzette Ford which in the end he put a stop to probably due to the relentless pressure.  I think Anji Greaves was probably correct when she stated that JM was quite fond of giving JB what for a lot of the time!


Well in my experience, NaNu, people rarely move very far from their personality types as they get older, so perhaps what we see, when we look at Julie in her early 20's, is the embyonic stage of a woman who will achieve her goals by whatever means possible, whoever stands in her way. Such a person is never likely to be meek and compliant unless it suits them to act that way.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #904 on: May 05, 2013, 03:32:PM »
lookout, I fail to understand how any person who has read the psychiatric reports on Jeremy Bamber can claim he is a psychopath.
You don't have to be a psychopath to kill but a person surely has various violent instincts and anger and  would be more likely to commit a spare of the moment emotional response rather than a cold and cunningly executed plan with the ability to turn up shortly after as cool as the proverbial cucumber??   In 28 years I think there is one incident of Jeremy Bamber threatening someone with a bottle, no doubt an immediate and emotional response many years ago, hardly surprising in the circumstances. I believe he meditates which keeps him grounded and able to cope.  He is part of the tragedy not the cause of it imo.

Hi Maggie

If as much empahsis was given to the likelihood of SC having an attacment disorder rather than JB being a psychopath, especially when there's absolutely no evidence for the latter,  then perhaps we could improve our understanding of the case  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV6d1nAgBNI

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #905 on: May 05, 2013, 03:32:PM »
It strikes me that poor Jeremy was,and became anyones" punchbag".A prize mug. 28 years for being a mug.That's some record.!

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #906 on: May 05, 2013, 03:41:PM »

Well in my experience, NaNu, people rarely move very far from their personality types as they get older, so perhaps what we see, when we look at Julie in her early 20's, is the embyonic stage of a woman who will achieve her goals by whatever means possible, whoever stands in her way. Such a person is never likely to be meek and compliant unless it suits them to act that way.
I think you hit the nail right on the head april.  Julie appears to have always known where she wanted to end up, one track minded. ;D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #907 on: May 05, 2013, 03:44:PM »
I think that people can change - but not after their 25th year. Julie COULD have changed, since she was so young. Not saying it happened 100%, but I believe it could have.

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« Reply #908 on: May 05, 2013, 04:00:PM »
I think that people can change - but not after their 25th year. Julie COULD have changed, since she was so young. Not saying it happened 100%, but I believe it could have.

Hi Alias, he statement regards the cheque book fraud was taken in 2002 for JBs appeal.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #909 on: May 05, 2013, 04:01:PM »
Hi Maggie

If as much empahsis was given to the likelihood of SC having an attacment disorder rather than JB being a psychopath, especially when there's absolutely no evidence for the latter,  then perhaps we could improve our understanding of the case  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV6d1nAgBNI
I have to agree with you NN. Just been listening to your link again.  What a tragedy for these kids, left untreated many of them end up with long term prison sentences and never find the love they crave.  Poor Sheila had a really raw deal didn't she.  Just goes to show money and status don't count for much in the scheme of things. :) :)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #910 on: May 05, 2013, 04:03:PM »
I think that people can change - but not after their 25th year. Julie COULD have changed, since she was so young. Not saying it happened 100%, but I believe it could have.


Julie had no choice but to change and alter her ways,,because she too would have been on a downward spiral of crime and would have had no compunction in blaming Jeremy.
She was your typical manipulative and cunning individual.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #911 on: May 05, 2013, 04:03:PM »
Hi Alias, he statement regards the cheque book fraud was taken in 2002 for JBs appeal.

Well, yes, I knew that actually. Sometimes I try to see the best in people - naively.  :P

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #912 on: May 05, 2013, 04:04:PM »
I have to agree with you NN. Just been listening to your link again.  What a tragedy for these kids, left untreated many of them end up with long term prison sentences and never find the love they crave.  Poor Sheila had a really raw deal didn't she.  Just goes to show money and status don't count for much in the scheme of things. :) :)
I absolutely agree with the new discovery that babies remember.  My eldest daughter was very, very young when we adopted her but also very alert.  She was a total nightmare for about a year she screamed and screamed and never slept, I swear she was missing her Mum.  :(

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #913 on: May 05, 2013, 04:12:PM »

Julie had no choice but to change and alter her ways,,because she too would have been on a downward spiral of crime and would have had no compunction in blaming Jeremy.
She was your typical manipulative and cunning individual.
Indeed lookout, Julie was a criminal, lots of young people experiment with drugs and rebel but Julie certainly went for it, she had quite a list of achievements by the time the police needed to clean her up so as to be an acceptable witness. 

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #914 on: May 05, 2013, 04:17:PM »
Well, yes, I knew that actually. Sometimes I try to see the best in people - naively.  :P
I don't think it's niaive to look for the best in people Alias.  It's an admirable quality and nothing to be ashamed of. ;) ;) :)