Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985

[Lugg]

Hey I'm multi-tasking: dinner, cleaning, drinking wine and posting    Perhaps I should have responded to Alias' post re why the differentiation between adoptive and birth parents. 

What does your post have to do with the price of fish?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1199.0.html

Don't get the tasks mixed up or you'll end up drowning yourself whilst tipping your dinner all over the keyboard.

[Alias]

Alias, we've been here numerous times. Of course it happens in biological families but IMO there is greater pressure placed on the adopted child/the adopted child may feel there is greater pressure placed on it. I couldn't have been more different from my adoptive mother who had been told that "It will grow into your ways" I never did and I think I always knew she neither loved me nor liked me and your sister may well have felt exactly the same as I did. The need for approval was HUGE but not once did I get it. I was still trying though, 4 hrs before she died. My heart aches for your sister.

Mine too. And for you and others who feel unloved by their parents, adoptive or not. It just is such a basic thing in life. All children deserve nothing less than unconditional love and acceptance for exactly who they are.

[killingeve]

Mine too. And for you and others who feel unloved by their parents, adoptive or not. It just is such a basic thing in life. All children deserve nothing less than unconditional love and acceptance for exactly who they are.

Alias may I ask do you think Sheila felt loved and accepted by June?

[Alias]

Alias may I ask do you think Sheila felt loved and accepted by June?

I have to be diplomatic and say, I don´t know. I don´t know how June felt, I don´t have enough knowledge about her. She had some mental problems during the faze where she should have bonded with her child, and that most likely damaged their relationship. The early bonding is so important.
Still, June could have loved her daughter and accepted her. It seems the Bambers went to great lengths to help and accomodate Sheila.
I don´t know, NN.

[lookout]

NN,,times have changed since the 60's/70's and 80's,,where emotions weren't as openly expressed as today.
Years ago,,as long as parents fed,clothed and looked after children to the best of their ability,,it was sufficient and acceptable. Their duties were done. I would say that most were kissed goodnight,then in the morning on their way to school,,and maybe as infants were perched on parents knees while stories were read to them,,as in my own household,,but no outward show of emotion. Children weren't molly-coddled either,,they were taught such things as good manners,courtesy,,good morals.

[guest154]

I'm not adopted, had a cousin who was.
Parents provided me with everything I needed, looked after me. Were never big on hugs or kisses or the word 'love'.

But I think it's all just personal experiences and not really relevant to the case at all.

[lookout]

NN,,love was expressed in the prepared meals that you sat down to after school.
The beautifully laundered clothes and clean beds. There's more to love than hanging on to someone and pampering them. Values were entirely different. Pity they didn't exist today.

[maggie]

Mine too. And for you and others who feel unloved by their parents, adoptive or not. It just is such a basic thing in life. All children deserve nothing less than unconditional love and acceptance for exactly who they are.

Very true Alias, I cannot understand how a grown man or woman cannot give love to a child who needs it. It shouldn't be  about bloodline or race but about humanity.

[Steve_uk]

Well if he ever had a "posh" accent he's certainly lost it now. I've yet to meet a farming family with posh accents round these parts. Maybe you're listening to too many Archers episodes? 

He was hurrying Police from the outset with the telephone call whilst casually flicking through Yellow Pages himself knowing full well the occupants of the Farm were all dead. He then successfully achieved procrastination with his lie that Sheila had recently been indulging in target practice. Whatever the accent his stentorian tone was in evidence when he told DS Stan Jones to have Crispy put down.

[maggie]

He was hurrying Police from the outset with the telephone call whilst casually flicking through Yellow Pages himself knowing full well the occupants of the Farm were all dead. He then successfully achieved procrastination with his lie that Sheila had recently been indulging in target practice. Whatever the accent his stentorian tone was in evidence when he told DS Stan Jones to have Crispy put down.

Steve for goodness sake there's absolutely no proof any of that happened and it was a joint decision to have crispy put down. You just make it up as you go along.

[guest154]

Steve for goodness sake there's absolutely no proof any of that happened and it was a joint decision to have crispy put down. You just make it up as you go along.

Who was it a joint decision between, Maggie?
I do remember reading the documents someone posted (Patti maybe) in which Crispie was talked about, but it was a long time back.

[andrea]

Didnt Bamber hate the dog, afraid it would chew the wires to his Hi-Fi ?

[maggie]

Who was it a joint decision between, Maggie?
I do remember reading the documents someone posted (Patti maybe) in which Crispie was talked about, but it was a long time back.

If I remember rightly it was originally susan who asked ngb about what happened to Crispy. I have forgotten Ngbs answer but Susan could tell you exactly. I think Crispy had bitten Jeremy in the past and he asked Ann to look after him and Ann had the little dog put down but Susan is te expert (or ngb).

[Lugg]

He was hurrying Police from the outset with the telephone call whilst casually flicking through Yellow Pages himself knowing full well the occupants of the Farm were all dead. He then successfully achieved procrastination with his lie that Sheila had recently been indulging in target practice. Whatever the accent his stentorian tone was in evidence when he told DS Stan Jones to have Crispy put down.

What has that got to do with "posh" accents? You said in effect that Taff Jones felt threatened by Jeremy's posh accent. I said he didn't have one.

[Lugg]

Didnt Bamber hate the dog, afraid it would chew the wires to his Hi-Fi ?

The fact is none of them liked him, not only Jeremy. In effect no one wanted him either.