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Offline Bridget

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #300 on: April 27, 2013, 09:06:PM »
I think it was in her 2nd statement she amends it to 3:15 see 304 COA. 

I think I will retire on this, twill please our Susan..lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes, she changes the time after speaking to Susan Battersby.

We've probably done it to death!
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« Reply #301 on: April 27, 2013, 09:08:PM »
What is important to me are the words Jeremy supposedly used in that conversation, whatever time it was. "Something is wrong at the farm."
If he had killed his family, I see no logic in those words being used. If he didn´t, I do see some logic: his father had just phoned him saying "She/Sheila´s gone mad, she´s got the gun, come quickly." (not verbatim, sorry). It is a confusing message to get in the middle of the night. Jeremy must have thought: Why didn´t he call the police - or did he call the police? Does he want me to call the police - wouldn´t he have told me to call the police? I wonder if I should call the police, maybe he will get mad if I do - he told ME to come over. I am scared to go there if Sheila has gone mad with a gun. What shall I do??? I´ll call Julie, perhaps she can tell me what I should do. RINGRINGRING, Jeremy: "Something is wrong at the farm (he probably said a few more sentences, including maybe, what do you think I should do?)" Julie: "It´s probably nothing, Sheila has fits all the time, go back to bed."
Jeremy alone again, nah, I can´t just go back to bed, dad sounded very upset. I´ll call the local coppers, maybe that will upset dad less than if I call 911.
Makes sense to me.

That's a REALLY good point Alias, the very fact that he father hadn't called the police himself  - or had already made the call himself - is an indication to Jeremy that he doesn't want them involved or that  they're on their way already? And if not, maybe the situation doesn't warrant them being called. However, being unsure, calls a local station but gets no response and so he calls Julie for reassurance (fat lot of use she was!!). Having had a few minutes to think about it, he starts to get worried and is beginning to get a little panicked by the time he talks to West who, actually recalls hearing the urgency grow in his voice as the call dragged out!! PERFECT SENSE!!  ;)
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #302 on: April 27, 2013, 09:11:PM »
Steve do you not realise that either all that you have said has been made up you you yourself and is in fact a lie? Or it is all true. If that is so then JM can still be charged, not only for perverting the course of justice. But also for being an accessory after the fact. Which is it to be, Is it a lie, or is it true?
The dilemma the Jeremy supporters have is if Julie is to be charged as an accessory then Jeremy is as guilty as hell,and the number of days of innocent incarceration of your main culprit quoted vividly on the frontispiece of this site which acts subliminally and insidiously is a complete charade..

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #303 on: April 27, 2013, 09:12:PM »
In JMs statement she says that he said "everything is going well, not to worry, there is something wrong at the farm".



Bridget, you're correct. That's exactly what she did say he's said. followed by, when she'd thought about it she "realized he was telling me they were all dead" but other than tell SB before going back to bed, she did nothing. So if we accept that he did say it, coupled with having talked about doing it for the past year and on one occasion using sleeping pills she had given him, there could have been absolutely NO ambiguity, she must have known EXACTLY what he was talking about but she went to bed and did nothing for another month.

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« Reply #304 on: April 27, 2013, 09:15:PM »
The dilemma the Jeremy supporters have is if Julie is to be charged as an accessory then Jeremy is as guilty as hell,and the number of days of innocent incarceration of your main culprit quoted vividly on the frontispiece of this site which acts subliminally and insidiously is a complete charade..

Not a dilemma for me, I don't think he's guilty!! It's your dilemma because you think he's guilty and she would only be an accessory in that instance!!  ;)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #305 on: April 27, 2013, 09:19:PM »


Bridget, you're correct. That's exactly what she did say he's said. followed by, when she'd thought about it she "realized he was telling me they were all dead" but other than tell SB before going back to bed, she did nothing. So if we accept that he did say it, coupled with having talked about doing it for the past year and on one occasion using sleeping pills she had given him, there could have been absolutely NO ambiguity, she must have known EXACTLY what he was talking about but she went to bed and did nothing for another month.

I don't think she's ever denied that that was what she did.
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #306 on: April 27, 2013, 09:23:PM »


Bridget, you're correct. That's exactly what she did say he's said. followed by, when she'd thought about it she "realized he was telling me they were all dead" but other than tell SB before going back to bed, she did nothing. So if we accept that he did say it, coupled with having talked about doing it for the past year and on one occasion using sleeping pills she had given him, there could have been absolutely NO ambiguity, she must have known EXACTLY what he was talking about but she went to bed and did nothing for another month.
Of course she did,because she was a frightened young woman of 20 years whose physical side had been awakened by a charming cad who saw the possibility of using Julie as a cover for his wicked crimes. He had already roped Julie into the role of lookout during the Osea Road robbery which showed his avarice as well as his real attitude towards his family,whilst today professing to have loved them all as he paces up and down his prison cell.

Julie was a confused young woman at this stage who might well have been intimidated by the Chief of Essex Police DCI Taff Jones as many more hardened male colleagues were at the outset,and who was she but a student teacher to be taken seriously with such a momentous tale that she had to tell. Fortunately stalwart Julie worked out the correct course of action with her friends who to this day have not deserted her,unlike many of Jeremy's fly-by-night acquaintances,particularly the women who have used him for their own ends whilst professing to love him the same unconditional way Julie did until such heinous occurrences unfolded that a relationship no longer became possible.
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #307 on: April 27, 2013, 09:30:PM »
Of course she did,because she was a frightened young woman of 20 years whose physical side had been awakened by a charming cad who saw the possibility of using Julie as a cover for his wicked crimes. He had already roped Julie into the role of lookout during the Osea Road robbery which showed his avarice as well as his real attitude towards his family,whilst today professing to have loved them all as he paces up and down his prison cell.

Julie was a confused young woman at this stage who might well have been intimidated by the Chief of Essex Police DCI Taff Jones as many more hardened male colleagues were at the outset,and who was she but a student teacher to be taken seriously with such a momentous tale that she had to tell. Fortunately stalwart Julie worked out the correct course of action with her friends who to this day have not deserted her,unlike many of Jeremy's fly-by-night acquaintances,particularly the women who have used him for their own ends whilst professing to love him the same unconditional way Julie did until such heinous occurrences unfolded that a relationship no longer became possible.


You sound totally besotted with a character who exists only in your head and as such appears unrecognizable and unreal.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #308 on: April 27, 2013, 09:33:PM »

You sound totally besotted with a character who exists only in your head and as such appears unrecognizable and unreal.
No it's you amongst others who won't recognize the truth about this despicable man and the woman who against all odds refused to let her life be ruined and has subsequently made a considerable success of it overseas.

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« Reply #309 on: April 27, 2013, 09:35:PM »
No it's you amongst others who won't recognize the truth about this despicable man and the woman who against all odds refused to let her life be ruined and has subsequently made a considerable success of it overseas.

I certainly don't recognise 'your truth' I imagine even those who support guilt find it hard to do that!!

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #310 on: April 27, 2013, 09:36:PM »
Of course she did,because she was a frightened young woman of 20 years whose physical side had been awakened by a charming cad who saw the possibility of using Julie as a cover for his wicked crimes. He had already roped Julie into the role of lookout during the Osea Road robbery which showed his avarice as well as his real attitude towards his family,whilst today professing to have loved them all as he paces up and down his prison cell.

Julie was a confused young woman at this stage who might well have been intimidated by the Chief of Essex Police DCI Taff Jones as many more hardened male colleagues were at the outset,and who was she but a student teacher to be taken seriously with such a momentous tale that she had to tell. Fortunately stalwart Julie worked out the correct course of action with her friends who to this day have not deserted her,unlike many of Jeremy's fly-by-night acquaintances,particularly the women who have used him for their own ends whilst professing to love him the same unconditional way Julie did until such heinous occurrences unfolded that a relationship no longer became possible.



Blimey Steve,,you make her sound like some Demi-God.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #311 on: April 27, 2013, 09:36:PM »
So,Mugford realised Jeremy had carried out his alleged threat of murdering all of his family and tells him to go back to bed,and then SHE herself goes back to bed? Rubbish!

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #312 on: April 27, 2013, 09:51:PM »
No it's you amongst others who won't recognize the truth about this despicable man and the woman who against all odds refused to let her life be ruined and has subsequently made a considerable success of it overseas.


Or, if we look at it from a different angle, she ballsed up an innocent man's life, accepted a generous pay off from the scummiest publication in the country, allowed them to print a picture of her dressed and made up to look like more of a dominatrix than a junior school teacher, further yet, she poses for the same paper, not in any demure way but hitching her skirt suggestively. Strange, isn't it Steve, that we're talking about the same person.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #313 on: April 27, 2013, 09:56:PM »
I bet she was one of those niff of a maniacs too.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #314 on: April 27, 2013, 10:08:PM »
So,Mugford realised Jeremy had carried out his alleged threat of murdering all of his family and tells him to go back to bed,and then SHE herself goes back to bed? Rubbish!
I think she mulled it over in bed and realized that Jeremy had finally gone ahead with his scheme and was no longer crying wolf. You have to remember the incessant practical joker which was Jeremy Bamber which led his Headmaster Mr. Bruce Logie Lockhart,92, to describe him as "a relentless tease". An unsophisticated Julie,the product of one of the best all girl grammar schools in the North of England was unaccustomed to such deviant and infantile male behaviour. The crimes were a combination of circumstances;double adoptees,some parental failings and the avaricious Zeitgeist of the times which meant any unproductive members of society faced the axe,and the temptation harboured in Jeremy's mind finally became too much as he saw a way out from the perceived serfdom which circumstances had engendered,justifying the deaths to himself as people unworthy of life,and the possibility of Colin making a new start no longer having the millstone of children to look after. An imprisoned Jeremy can no longer confess to such wicked crimes without the ultimate retribution which oh so nearly killed him several years ago and which is completely unacceptable,a possible way out through turning to Christianity is closed to him as he reminisces on the perceived damage that religion inflicted on sister and mother,and Jeremy is now stuck as a pathetic figure with a handful of correspondents for succour as he becomes older and greyer,with not even an apology to Colin which might be a start as he contemplates the rest of his life behind bars.
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